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        <title>Mobile Widgets aren&#39;t the Mobile Web</title>
        <published>2009-02-11T16:20:00Z</published>
        
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<p>

<a href="http://mobilemonday.org.uk/2009/01/february-2nd-event-changing-landscape.html">Mobile Monday London</a>
met last night to discuss the Mobile Web and Widgets. It was an engaging and 
thought-provoking evening.
</p><p>
Your intrepid reporter was there and, in spite of the crashing of his sad, clunky old
Windows Mobile Xperia X1, losing all his notes, he brings you this hot report from
right out of his memory (somewhat steamed up by subsequent socialising, but reclarified by
Google).
</p><p>
After that, I give an explanation of why I believe that Widgets are not the solution
to what Mobile 2.0 needs...
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<p>
</p><div class="summary"><p>
<a href="http://mobilemonday.org.uk/2009/01/february-2nd-event-changing-landscape.html">Mobile Monday London</a>
met last night to discuss the Mobile Web and Widgets. It was an engaging and 
thought-provoking evening.
</p><p>
Your intrepid reporter was there and, in spite of the crashing of his sad, clunky old
Windows Mobile Xperia X1, losing all his notes, he brings you this hot report from
right out of his memory (somewhat steamed up by subsequent socialising, but reclarified by
Google).
</p><p>
After that, I give an explanation of why I believe that Widgets are not the solution
to what Mobile 2.0 needs...
</p></div><p>
<b>GSMA ONE</b>
</p><p>
First up was Kevin Smith from Vodafone to tell us about the 
<a href="https://gsma.securespsite.com/access/entry/default.aspx">GSMA ONE Web API</a>
(also <a href="http://oneapi.aepona.com/">via here</a>).
ONE means &#39;Open Network Enablers&#39;. It seems quite similar to the
<a href="http://web21c.bt.com/">Web21C</a>
initiative by BT, led by my good friend
<a href="http://blog.whatfettle.com/">Paul Downey</a>,
but which was unfortunately set aside in favour of
<a href="http://www.ribbit.com">Ribbit</a>.
</p><p>
You can send an SMS, get a user&#39;s location and access billing and connection info. All
through a scary 
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/strest-service-trampled-rest-will-break-web-20/">STREST</a>
interface. 
</p><p>
Scary because it looks like you can 
<a href="http://www.betavine.net/bvportal/web/guest/projects/resources/api/gsma_api">send a text using a GET</a>... 
The documentation
<a href="http://oneapi.aepona.com/content/gsma/tutorials/GSMA_Access_API_Messaging_REST_Tutorial.pdf">here</a> [PDF]
does suggest using POST, but even so, the design fundamentally wants Resource-Orientation 
in place of Service Orientation:
</p><p>
The message appears to be tacked on to the URL as an argument.  There are references to
&#39;soapUI&#39;, endpoints, etc. An SMS message doesn&#39;t appear to have its own URL, just an
internal message ID. There are &#39;exceptions thrown&#39;, all with a 400 code, even for
internal platform and integration faults.  And so-on - in classic
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/strest-service-trampled-rest-will-break-web-20/">STREST</a>
style! 
</p><p>
Still, nothing that can&#39;t be fixed with a little help from a REST dude, or a read of 
<a href="http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596529260/">&quot;RESTful Web Services&quot;</a>.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b>OMTP BONDI and Ikivo</b>
</p><p>
Next, Nick Allot told us all about
<a href="http://bondi.omtp.org/">OMTP BONDI</a>,
which is an attempt to ameliorate fragmentation in the mobile Web and widget space - the
one which allows access to parts of the phone not normally reached in a browser: PIM,
SMS, camera, GPS, etc.
</p><p>
Their big thing is security: take widgets out of the safety of the browser and give them
access to the phone via APIs, and you have a potential security nightmare. 
</p><p>
Seems BONDI will let you do most Mobile 2.0 native-like 
<a href="http://bondi.omtp.org/widget-gallery/">applets</a>, such as LBS, photo-sharing, etc.
There&#39;s a reference implementation for sad, clunky old Windows Mobile, and both 
<a href="http://www.gomonews.com/bondi-initiative-from-omtp-to-defragment-mobile-internet/">Opera and LiMo are jumping aboard</a>,
too.
</p><p>
BONDI aims to be W3C compatible where possible. Not HTML5, mind, but rather a works-now,
fit-for-purpose solution to the fragmentation problem, that includes widgets and may
later converge with HTML5. There&#39;s an 
<a href="http://wapreview.com/blog/?p=1184">excellent discussion</a>
about this on WAP Review.
</p><p>
This was followed by a talk by Samuel Sweet from 
<a href="http://www.ikivo.com/">Ikivo</a>.
It seems that, starting with their successful
<a href="http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_release_the_t*omnia_in_korea__omnia_but_on_steroids_-news-656.php">Samsung T*Omnia</a>
widget interface, Ikivo have been overcome with standards love, and are going BONDI as
well as W3C compliant, especially with SVG as a rendering technology.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b>Firefox for Mobile</b>
</p><p>
Christian Sejersen of Mozilla gave a good intro to what is currently called
<a href="http://images.google.com/images?q=fennec">Fennec</a> - Alpha 2,
but will soon be renamed the more grown-up &#39;Firefox&#39;. It&#39;s got the same code in it after
all: and APIs such as camera and location that get added to the common codebase
will be accessible via both mobile and desktop.
</p><p>
<a href="http://vimeo.com/2577978">Looks very swishy</a>
and touchy and in sync with the times. Available now on Maemo (and 
<a href="http://moblin.org/category/tags/fennec">Moblin</a>)
and soon on sad, clunky old Windows Mobile. Then later this year on Symbian.  Codebase
is C, so no Java or Javascript phones supported, of course. Or closed walled-garden
proprietary locked-down phones like, um, the iPhone. It seems that the add-on community
is already fixing up their plugins for this mobile version without even being prompted.
No news on the <a href="http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/">Prism</a>
widget-alike system, to compete with BONDI or Opera. It&#39;s &quot;still in the labs&quot;...
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b>Panel</b>
</p><p>
Then the panel session started, with the best questions from the excellent host,
<a href="http://www.torgo.com/blog/">Dan Appelquist</a> of Vodafone,
and some good ones from the audience.
</p><p>
There was much elaboration and clarification on the presentations (thus included above
instead), and an interesting conversation around monetisation: how do widgets make
money? Three suggestions: adverts, selling widgets on an app(let) store and
micro-payments. Graham Thomas of T-Mobile appeared to be happy just to get more Internet
traffic for now..
</p><p>
There was also confirmation from Graham that Web&#39;n&#39;Walk 4.0 will major on widgets, but
he didn&#39;t say what flavour. More hot journalism uncovers
<a href="http://www.smartphoneshow.com/files/_15.30_jon_tetzchner_innovate_collaborate_accelerate.pdf">this confirmation</a>
[PDF] (page 29) that it&#39;s still going to be tied in with Opera.
</p><p>
The outstanding revelation of the evening (sorry Ikivo!) came when someone told us that
the Palm Pre&#39;s widget system is not only proprietary, but <i>uses tables for layout</i>!
The horror! Lots of tutting and W3C-like smugness around the room.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b>Following Open W3C Standards can still break the Web</b>
</p><p>
The goal of all this standard widget aspiration, apart from the obvious motivation of
being able to compete with the iPhone, is to allow everyone to write widgets, and for
those widgets to work on all our phones.
</p><p>
However, <i>just because everyone does what the W3C thinks they should do doesn&#39;t mean you
automatically get interoperability</i>.  Most importantly, doing what the W3C wants
doesn&#39;t mean you won&#39;t break the Web!
</p><p>
The W3C, don&#39;t forget, also brings you &#39;Web&#39; Services - those mis-named standards
responsible for much Web-breaking, including inspiring a whole generation of
Web-breakers with their 
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/strest-service-trampled-rest-will-break-web-20/">STREST</a>
interfaces.
</p><p>
Interoperability on the Web is about state transfer, content types, URLs, hypertext. No
amount of API and widget standardisation will give classic Web interoperability as long
as they ignore these Web basics.
</p><p>
A widget is an applet is an application. It&#39;s a closed structure whose data interoperability
has to be hard coded each time, and whose imperative Javascript naturally wants to
make function calls back on the server - probably through HTTP.
</p><p>
And you run either this application or that, each having its own way of pushing or
pulling data around, or even the same data presented in much the same way all over again.
</p><p>
In the Web you run one browser application and everything is mashed within - data interoperability.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b>The U-Web gives us the best of both worlds</b>
</p><p>
Admittedly, the basic Web isn&#39;t good enough by itself when seeking an architecture for
Mobile 2.0&#39;s essential personalisation, interactivity and usability.
</p><p>
But that doesn&#39;t mean that we should throw away the Web&#39;s hard-won advantages of
interoperability and scalability, that we perhaps take too much for granted.
</p><p>
Enter the <a href="http://the-u-web.org">U-Web</a>!  The U-Web &quot;puts the Web back into Web 2.0 and
Mobile 2.0&quot;. 
</p><p>
It takes the best of the Web&#39;s one-way static document publishing model, and extends it
to a two-way dynamic data exchange model, while keeping the interoperability and scalability
of the Web.
</p><p>
Instead of working on widget standards that break the Web, let&#39;s standardise a fully
Web-compatible Mobile 2.0 architecture that delivers the same rich, personal
functionality, but adds back the seamless mashability of ever-changing people and their
ever-changing stuff. Oh, and promises scalability and rapid, easy development.
</p><p>
I&#39;ve kicked off the project with the <a href="http://the-u-web.org">U-Web</a> proposal - perhaps
you&#39;d like to jump in and help? Email me (see left bar) or leave a comment.
</p><p>

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        <id>http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/mobile-20-killer-app-app-killer/</id>
        <title>The Mobile 2.0 Killer App is the App Killer</title>
        <published>2008-12-19T17:05:00Z</published>
        
        <updated>2008-12-19T17:05:00Z</updated>
        
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<p>

Mobiles are unique - if you want to miss out on the opportunity they represent, you
could choose to see them as just slow computers with tiny interfaces and dodgy Internet
connections. Then try to squeeze in your traditional applications; try squeezing the
office desktop metaphor with its sedentary documents into a device the size of a mouse!
</p><p>
Alternatively, see them as the most personal, social and dynamic of devices that are
becoming connected to the Internet. Now a multi-billion-scale global opportunity opens
up to you.  That&#39;s customers <i>and</i> dollars! In trying to grasp this, some are calling
it &#39;Mobile 2.0&#39;, by analogy with its sibling, Web 2.0.
</p><p>
In that light, <i>the Killer App for Mobile 2.0 is the sharer, masher and updater of
People, Things, Times and Places</i>...  The key to getting Mobile 2.0 right is for it to
merge seamlessly into our lives. That means the handling of dynamic and shared data
becomes the top priority, even above the handling of applications.
</p><p>
This article describes a Mobile 2.0 platform that makes people and their stuff first
class - not applications.
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<p>
</p><div class="summary"><p>
Mobiles are unique - if you want to miss out on the opportunity they represent, you
could choose to see them as just slow computers with tiny interfaces and dodgy Internet
connections. Then try to squeeze in your traditional applications; try squeezing the
office desktop metaphor with its sedentary documents into a device the size of a mouse!
</p><p>
Alternatively, see them as the most personal, social and dynamic of devices that are
becoming connected to the Internet. Now a multi-billion-scale global opportunity opens
up to you.  That&#39;s customers <i>and</i> dollars! In trying to grasp this, some are calling
it &#39;Mobile 2.0&#39;, by analogy with its sibling, Web 2.0.
</p><p>
In that light, <i>the Killer App for Mobile 2.0 is the sharer, masher and updater of
People, Things, Times and Places</i>...  The key to getting Mobile 2.0 right is for it to
merge seamlessly into our lives. That means the handling of dynamic and shared data
becomes the top priority, even above the handling of applications.
</p><p>
This article describes a Mobile 2.0 platform that makes people and their stuff first
class - not applications.
</p></div><p>
Mobile 2.0 should be about effortless delivery of dynamic data such as local weather,
personalised news feeds, timelines off Facebook and feeds off Twitter, messages, notes,
videos, photos, calendar entries, map locations and meetup plans.
</p><p>
Mobile 2.0 should easily allow us to two-way-share this dynamic data with family,
friends, contacts, third parties and the world.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b>People don&#39;t actually want applications on their mobiles!</b>
</p><p>
What Mobile 2.0 does <i>not</i> need is traditional applications, because applications just
get in the way of this sharing, mashing and updating of live and personal data.  What
most people want on their mobiles is not the applications, but the stuff they animate.
</p><p>
People only accept the concept of applications (whether a native app or a Web app)
because that&#39;s all they&#39;ve been offered, and it&#39;s largely good enough.  But no-one
actually <i>wants</i> to download and launch and register and log in to a local
find-your-friends application - they just want to find their friends in the area - now!
And they shouldn&#39;t then have to flip between the find-your-friends map owned by that
application and the restaurant review map owned by another.
</p><p>
They don&#39;t want Facebook videos and YouTube videos and phone videos. They just want to
share videos. They shouldn&#39;t have to think about whether to send a picture by MMS or to
use an upload app, after remembering the login. They don&#39;t want multiple ways of sending
messages: IM, SMS, Twitter, Facebook, etc. They shouldn&#39;t have to think about how to
tell their friends about some news item - whether to post a TinyURL link on Twitter or
copy the text manually into Facebook.
</p><p>
They only want one shared calendar, not the phone calendar and a Google calendar and
events on Upcoming.org, that need two more logins.  They shouldn&#39;t have to think about
how to synchronise music or contacts lists on the phone, the iPod, the PC, some memory
card and online.
</p><p>
Applications - both native and Web, and including Applets and Widgets - just get in the
way of life!  They try to own or control our People, Things, Times and Places, breaking
them up with arbitrary application boundaries and making things unnecessarily hard to do.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b>People just want to share new stuff through their mobiles</b>
</p><p>
What most people would prefer is for their friends and messages from their phonebook,
their Facebook, their Twitter, their IM, plus their Flickr photos, their Facebook
photos, their restaurant and film reviews and their meeting places <i>all</i> to appear on
the <i>same</i> map or in the <i>same</i> calendar... along with the local weather forecast
for now and for any dates being planned.
</p><p>
And for that map or calendar, those photos, messages, interesting news, etc., to be
actively shared amongst those friends, or even the entire world, simply by flicking the
&#39;share with friends&#39; or the &#39;make public&#39; switch. Any member of a group should be able
to post photos into a shared gallery, or scribble onto a shared whiteboard.
</p><p>
The Killer App for Mobile 2.0 is the sharer, masher and updater of People, Things, Times
and Places.  This Mobile 2.0 platform would seamlessly merge, update, synchronise,
upload, download and save your latest life stuff, including that of your friends and
family, so that you no longer have to think about doing it yourself.
</p><p>
Your identity and your stuff would be owned and controlled by you through your personal
handset. They would not be merely transferr<i>able</i> - they&#39;d simply <i>be</i> transferred,
to where they&#39;re needed, when they&#39;re needed, using an open Internet protocol and
standard formats.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b>What this Mobile 2.0 platform must do</b>
</p><p>
This platform will have a tactile 3D interface, with touchable, draggable areas for
People (friends, family, organisations), Things (photos, videos, messages, feeds, news,
notes), Times (appointments, plans, weather) and Places (maps, galleries).  It will
seamlessly access and present this interactive content from the phone itself -
representing you - from friends, and from third parties.
</p><p>
This interactive content will be findable by tags, geo-tags and timestamps - it&#39;s
semantic data, not document text. You&#39;ll be able to pick a Person, then see their
related Things, Times and Places; or pick a Thing, to see it&#39;s associated People, Times
and Places.  Stuff will also be findable by recommendation and trust, or at worst
by well-targetted advertising.
</p><p>
Loss of Internet will be handled gracefully - stuff from others will still be visible,
but simply not updated. There are no central servers, so loss of a server only affects
the particular content it sources and &#39;animates&#39; for you.
</p><p>
Third parties will easily be able to add functionality and interactive content such as
map overlays, media, news feeds, etc.. They just expose them using the open protocol and
notation - they won&#39;t have to ask anyone in order to do so. Some contributors can adapt
the Facebook, Flickr, Twitter and various IM APIs in the same way. This will require a
system for reconciling the multiple identities of users and their contacts.
</p><p>
There will need to be a virtual property system backed up by crypto keys and supporting
payment - just because we don&#39;t have an App Store, doesn&#39;t mean we can&#39;t charge for
interactive content! It will also be possible to charge for premium services, such as
remote storage space for over-enthusiastic photo-snappers.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b>Blueprint for the Mobile 2.0 Killer Application</b>
</p><p>
Right, we need to describe some more important things with capital letters, because
we&#39;re going to talk about the best open notation and Internet protocol for sharing,
mashing and updating...
</p><p>
We&#39;ve already introduced People, Things, Times and Places. Call these Entities. Entities
are open data - they have a current State.  We&#39;ll use a text-based notation to describe
their public State, because it&#39;s easy to read and write. Each Entity will conform to an
open standard public schema or syntax.
</p><p>
Entities can Link up because they will each have a UID (unique identifier). Some
friends-People met at the last-week-Time and the Tower-of-London-Place and took these
photo-Things. I have a collection Thing of People and both personal and public
collection Things of photo-Things. You get the idea. That&#39;s a form of mashing. Oh -
photos on the Web can be wrapped in Entities that pull out their metadata, and Web URLs
are valid Links.
</p><p>
Any Entity can Observe another. Well, it&#39;s mostly People Entities doing the Observing
and being Observed, via the mobile device: my Person Observes your Person to see what
you&#39;re up to, then Observes your collection Thing of latest photos and may watch you on
the map Place as you head towards me snapping more. Sharing and updating.
</p><p>
But some Things can be Observers, too; the more interactive ones that are affected by
Entities around them. A simple example may be a restaurant review summarising Thing,
that Observes and averages the scores off several reviewers&#39; submission Things. Each
time a score is added or changed, the final score adjusts accordingly. That&#39;s sharing
and updating, too, and Entities that depend on other Entities is another form of mashing.
</p><p>
Entities have read permissions, which control which People and other Entities can see
their State. Crypto tech may be needed to support this in some cases.  Entities don&#39;t
have write permissions as such, because they control their own State as a result of what
they Observe.
</p><p>
Of course, these Observations occur over the Internet. This will use an open standard
publish-subscribe, peer-to-peer protocol. An Internet packet will subscribe to an
Entity&#39;s Link, another packet will return current Entity State, subsequent packets will
broadcast State updates to current subscribers. State is transferred into servers and
handsets as required, by a combination of pull and push - sharing and updating. The
protocol will ultimately also have to support things like streaming and real-time media;
over Wifi at least, so as not to scare off the carriers...
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b>The U-Web Mobile 2.0 platform</b>
</p><p>
This Mobile 2.0 Killer Application for sharing, mashing and updating People, Things,
Times and Places ... will have a shorter name! I&#39;m calling it the &#39;U-Web&#39; Mobile 2.0
platform at the moment, reflecting its affinity to the
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/universe-web/">Universe Web</a>
I described before. The U-Web platform application will be free and the protocols
and formats outlined above will be open.
</p><p>
The typical handset specification and APIs we&#39;re aiming for are: at least 320x320
touch screen with Embedded 3D; GPS, Wifi and good 3G; front- and back-facing cameras.
</p><p>
There&#39;s a large number of Windows Mobile devices that match this, including phones from
HTC, Sony-Ericsson, Samsung, etc.  There&#39;s currently one Symbian (the Nokia 5800/Tube
with the N97 to come next year). One iPhone. One Android.  One Blackberry without Wifi
(the Storm).
</p><p>
Although Nokia&#39;s plans are somewhat unclear, their S60v5/Qt/Ovi offering looks like it
may preclude the U-Web, especially since the U-Web wants to be the top app... The U-Web
certainly wouldn&#39;t be allowed onto the Apple App Store - the clue is in the name!
Writing it in C also rules out Java phones, such as Android - which in any case is
another app-oriented platform - and any Blackberry handsets.
</p><p>
The U-Web should thus be written for Windows Mobile 6+ Professional handsets. At least
their users will have a ready appetite for anything integrated and easy to use, that
keeps them clear of the .. clumsy .. operating system. It will also be worth keeping an
eye on the various Linux MID (Mobile Internet Device) platforms, including OpenMoko,
Maemo and Moblin, and maybe LiMo.  Similarly, we should write for Windows and Linux on
the server side - the code will be essentially the same. It&#39;ll need to be written in C
as the lowest common denominator, most efficient language.
</p><p>
The U-Web will be the top or idle application: on Windows Mobile it would replace the
Today screen, or more likely TouchFLO 3D or Spb Mobile Shell. Else it could be an
Xperia X1 Panel. Like these, it will give access to phone functions such as calls,
texts, camera, speaker mute, Bluetooth and Wifi enable, lock screen, brightness, etc.
</p><p>
Of course, it won&#39;t actually be the <i>only</i> application while it is in its beta phase -
people may still want to access a browser, email and various settings and utilities. The
need for browser and email should reduce significantly when functions such as Web 2.0,
messaging and file sharing are drawn up into the mobile-native U-Web, leaving just
actual documents fitting awkwardly.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b>Opportunity</b>
</p><p>
It is a mistake to see Mobile as just a second-class computing platform or as a
miniature office desktop onto which you must squeeze applications and documents.
</p><p>
Mobile represents a whole different world of personal interaction and almost 100%
presence - especially now that mobiles are becoming Internet-connected and location-aware
and are being furnished with top-quality cameras and touch screens.  The mobile device
represents you, here, now; what you&#39;re seeing and doing, to your social network.
</p><p>
A Mobile 2.0 platform needs to drop closed applications and go instead with the flow of
People, Things, Times and Places. It needs to transparently share, mash and update people
and their stuff.
</p><p>
The U-Web Mobile 2.0 platform described here is designed to seamlessly merge your real
and virtual lives, starting with intuitive, 3D touch interfaces that give an almost
tangible feel to virtual property, then expanding out to touch the 3D lives of others.
</p><p>
If you take a photo, your friends can instantly &#39;join you on the map&#39; where you stand
and chat about it - and the weather conditions you&#39;re experiencing.  No need to upload
to photo sharing sites with logins, or to launch isolated chat, map and weather apps.
</p><p>
The opportunity is billion-scale - increasingly capable mobile devices will become the
world&#39;s primary connected computing device, outstripping PCs and making current Internet
and Web usage look like just a warm-up.
</p><p>
We should be in there with appropriate software when that happens. We can stumble into
this step-by-painful-step via applications and browsers, or we can just let go and
meet the actual requirements - with a platform for mashing dynamic, shared data.
</p><p>
I&#39;d be delighted to hear from you if you&#39;re interested in helping or getting involved in
any way with building this platform! Email me - link&#39;s on the left - or leave a comment.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>

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    <entry>
        <id>http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/google-micro-conference/</id>
        <title>Google Micro Conference</title>
        <published>2007-10-05T11:22:00Z</published>
        
        <updated>2007-10-05T11:22:00Z</updated>
        
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<p>

Last night&#39;s 
<a href="http://osjam.truemesh.com/">Google London Open Source Jam</a>
(also <a href="http://www.red-bean.com/ospowiki/LondonOpenSourceJam05Talks">here</a>)
was on the subject of the &#39;Web&#39; (didn&#39;t they invent that? Oh no,
that was Microsoft).
</p><p>
This event has been getting better and better each time I&#39;ve
attended. There were some very interesting lightning talks held
together with a tight structure and plenty of chance to chat,
drink cold Leffe and eat cold pizza. And nick [<i>transatlantic
translation: &#39;steal&#39;</i>] the 
<a href="http://www.greenandblacks.com/uk/productdetails.php?pageid=27&amp;cid=6&amp;pid=11">Green &amp; Black&#39;s chocolate</a>.
</p><p>
An ideal Micro Conference...
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</p><div class="summary"><p>
Last night&#39;s 
<a href="http://osjam.truemesh.com/">Google London Open Source Jam</a>
(also <a href="http://www.red-bean.com/ospowiki/LondonOpenSourceJam05Talks">here</a>)
was on the subject of the &#39;Web&#39; (didn&#39;t they invent that? Oh no,
that was Microsoft).
</p><p>
This event has been getting better and better each time I&#39;ve
attended. There were some very interesting lightning talks held
together with a tight structure and plenty of chance to chat,
drink cold Leffe and eat cold pizza. And nick [<i>transatlantic
translation: &#39;steal&#39;</i>] the 
<a href="http://www.greenandblacks.com/uk/productdetails.php?pageid=27&amp;cid=6&amp;pid=11">Green &amp; Black&#39;s chocolate</a>.
</p><p>
An ideal Micro Conference...
</p></div><p>
I arrived late (it starts at 6pm) and spent some time catching up with
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/92443667@N00/1488471991/in/set-72157602268864450/">ex-Thoughtworks colleagues</a>,
so I missed Dion &quot;Ajaxian&quot; Almaer&#39;s 
<a href="http://www.slideshare.net/dion/future-of-web-apps-google-gears">Google Gears slideset from FOWA</a>.  
Go there now and check it out.
</p><p>
Thus the first talk I saw
was a nifty piece of widgetry by Steven Goodwin called 
<a href="http://www.bluedust.com/minerva/">WARP</a>. In WARP, interacting with a page of
&#39;applets&#39; changed the URL to encode those applets&#39; current state. If
you link to the current page, it will always show that state.
Very long URLs, you can imagine. None of that fancy Ajax stuff.
RESTful, dare I say. Nice API server-side for unpacking your
applet params. 
</p><p>
A trip to the lavatories [<i>transatlantic translation:
&#39;restroom&#39;/&#39;bathroom&#39;</i>] revealed that they are, indeed, doing that
<a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2007/01/introducing-testing-on-toilet.html">Testing in the Toilet</a>
project in Google. It works, too! I learned something. Other intelligence on
Google&#39;s Inner Workings include confirmation of the beanbags and of
the high quality, free grub to which I have already alluded.
</p><p>
A nice bloke from Yahoo! (<a href="http://kid666.com/blog">Tom Hughes-Croucher</a>:
another spy?) came along to sell his idea that, in the
collaborative world of open-minded hackers, we who run websites
could help each other with our 404s. If I get a 404, I use the
referrer link to tell you, via some RESTful POST, that your link to
me is bust (assuming I don&#39;t intend to fix it myself).
</p><p>
I think the world is a little more selfish, so you need to decide
who hurts more - the site who sends their visitors to a dead-end,
or the site delivering that dead-end to a new visitor. I suspect
the latter, by a small margin, as it&#39;s not exactly a nice welcome.
So it&#39;s up to them to let the new visitor down more gently, and to
notify the publisher of the broken link with little or no cost to
them. For example, a really sociable 404-ing site could just
redirect the hapless visitor back to the referring page, adding
&#39;?broken=links&#39; to the URL - hopefully to be picked up by log
scanning scripts at the referring site.
</p><p>
Next up, <a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/">yours truly</a> taking 
<a href="http://www2007.org/prog-Developers.php#saturday">yet another chance</a>
to promote his excellent 
<a href="http://the-u-web.org">Micro Web</a> thingy. 
Couple of people asked about it afterwards - including that nice
chap from Yahoo! Also, a smart - and nice - chap called Toby 
(<a href="http://www.thetobe.com/">this one?</a>) got me into a deep discussion
on imperative vs. event-driven vs. state-driven programming. He was
apparently an old-timer like me, as he was able to engage in
dewy-eyed Functional Programming recollections. I managed to give
out about four full colour printouts about the
<a href="http://the-u-web.org">Micro Web</a>, 
and to collect some good calling cards.
</p><p>
However, <a href="http://joe.truemesh.com">Joe Walnes</a>, even a pint down in
the pub afterwards, still refused to sign up for Micro Web duties.
This in spite of over three years of intensive lobbying, including
eight months of me working Trojan-horse-like in his kitchen, on The 2005
Implementation.
</p><p>
Another ex-Thoughtworks colleague, 
<a href="http://www.pubbitch.org/blog">Simon Stewart</a>
took yet another chance to promote his promising
<a href="http://code.google.com/p/webdriver/">Webdriver</a> thingy. And a very
interesting project it is becoming. Still needs more work - on IE
support, etc - but I&#39;ll probably be using it in my new job at the
<a href="http://www.ft.com">Financial Times</a>.
</p><p>
Another ex-Thoughtworks colleague, 
<a href="http://abc.truemesh.com/">Chris Matts</a> took a chance to promote
his and Andy Pols&#39; interesting new
<a href="http://demo.pols.co.uk/dream/">Dream Machine</a> thingy.
Perhaps a bit like <a href="http://www.cambrianhouse.com">Cambrian House</a> - you put 
your dreams and ideas into it and people expand on them.
Chris is a natural on-stage - and even used the age-old trick of
promising lots of money for no effort, to get our attention at the start.
</p><p>
All I could come up with for the <a href="http://the-u-web.org">Micro Web</a>
was &#39;Cheaper, Wider, Faster&#39;...
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<i>Updated: added reference to Dion Almaer, details about WARP, swapped in the 
picture of TWers that I was waiting for and fixed a minor blunder thanks to that 
ever-sharp ThoughtWorker,  
<a href="http://dan.bodar.com/">Dan Bodart</a>..</i>

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    <entry>
        <id>http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/how-ruby-can-enable-web-20-platform/</id>
        <title>How Ruby can enable the Web 2.0 Platform</title>
        <published>2007-06-26T15:17:00Z</published>
        
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<p>

<a href="http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html">Web 2.0&#39;s definition</a>
includes seeing the Web as an application platform. Which means it
is in competition with Java and .Net, and with SOA, for both local
and widely distributed applications.
</p><p>
If the Web is going to be a platform, the skills you need to learn
to program it are the core Web 2.0 technologies such as Ajax, JSON,
Atom, Microformats and OpenID.
</p><p>
And Ruby. This language, that&#39;s capturing the hearts of many Web 2.0
programmers, is ideal for easing the transition from the Java
and .Net platforms to the Web platform, as I will show.
</p><p>
Even if you&#39;re part of a big company that is generally immune to the
latest trends, the marriage of Ruby and the Web-as-platform may be
something to prepare for. It could even displace your SOA agenda...
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<p>
</p><div class="summary"><p>
<a href="http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html">Web 2.0&#39;s definition</a>
includes seeing the Web as an application platform. Which means it
is in competition with Java and .Net, and with SOA, for both local
and widely distributed applications.
</p><p>
If the Web is going to be a platform, the skills you need to learn
to program it are the core Web 2.0 technologies such as Ajax, JSON,
Atom, Microformats and OpenID.
</p><p>
And Ruby. This language, that&#39;s capturing the hearts of many Web 2.0
programmers, is ideal for easing the transition from the Java
and .Net platforms to the Web platform, as I will show.
</p><p>
Even if you&#39;re part of a big company that is generally immune to the
latest trends, the marriage of Ruby and the Web-as-platform may be
something to prepare for. It could even displace your SOA agenda...
</p></div><p>
Few would disagree that the Ruby language is riding the wave generated
by Ruby-on-Rails. In turn, Rails is riding the Web 2.0 wave, coming
as it does from underpinning the very Web 2.0 
<a href="http://www.37signals.com">37signals</a> 
product suite.  
</p><p>
Rails and Ruby have tapped into the tech Zeitgeist of friendly,
simple and powerful. The speed with which the Ruby and Rails
communities have delivered the key components of Web 2.0 is matched
by the speed at which 
<a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/05/state_of_the_co_10.html">Ruby and Rails books are leaving the shelves</a>.
</p><p>
What is the ideal platform of Web 2.0? Will it be Rails and Ruby?
Will Ruby ride the Web 2.0 wave into the mainstream in the same way
Java rode the Web 1.0 wave?
</p><p>
Well, here&#39;s the problem with that question: Web 2.0 is supposed to
be primarily about the <i>Web</i> itself as the platform, as 
<a href="http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html">explained first</a>
by Tim O&#39;Reilly and then by a thousand Web 2.0 vendors and industry
watchers after him.
</p><p>
Web-as-platform is not just vendor hype or pundit hand-waving.
Let&#39;s think about what O&#39;Reilly meant by that.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b>Web as Platform</b>
</p><p>
Web 2.0 is about making the Web more interactive, and thus able to
support applications where Java and .Net would once have been
considered the sole delivery platforms.
</p><p>
The fact that the technologies of the Web can be turned to this
use is a shift with far-reaching implications.
</p><p>
Broadly, the shift we are seeing is from the one-way, static
document delivery of Web 1.0 towards the two-way, dynamic data
exchange of Web 2.0.
</p><p>
This fundamental repurposing is delivering more complex, interactive
applications that work inside our browsers and which fully leverage
the benefits of online operation. 
</p><p>
Web 2.0 is bringing the user and their stuff <i>into</i> the very Web
that they hitherto only passively consumed.  This network-enablement
of the user in turn enables their <i>social</i> networking and their
shared creativity and self-expression. 
</p><p>
Web 2.0 has tapped into a deep human need - a fact reflected in the
vast traffic volumes and correspondingly vast valuations of Web 2.0
startups that we&#39;re currently seeing.
</p><p>
But Web 2.0 is not just for the startups: Enterprise Web 2.0 is
coming! The bigco.com site is going to be looking a little, well,
static and lifeless when compared to the new sites that are
springing up everywhere, and that most of BigCo&#39;s employees are
using. Further, BigCo can gain huge benefits from Web 2.0 approaches
empowering and connecting those employees on the Intranet. And that
Intranet is an ideal platform for deploying company-wide, interactive
applications.
</p><p>
This shift in the Web to two-way dynamic data is being powered by a
set of technologies that a Web platform programmer is going to have
to learn.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b>Web 2.0 Platform Technologies</b>
</p><p>
Anything that claims to be an application platform must support
data. Web 2.0 is above all the data Web. Web 2.0 is about
semantics, not free text and font sizes. Hence, it inevitably starts
with data-oriented formats such as 
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XHTML">XHTML</a>, 
<a href="http://www.yaml.org/">YAML</a> and 
<a href="http://json.org/">JSON</a>.  In Web 2.0
more than ever, we talk about data not documents and about
separating data from its presentation.  CSS is big in Web 2.0, for
good reason (not just for gradient fills). Inside the page of a
self-respecting Web 2.0 application, you&#39;ll often find 
<a href="http://microformats.org/">Microformats</a> - again, 
semantics in the page: publishing concise data of widely-understood
standard formats. Some of those Microformats may be 
<a href="http://support.technorati.com/support/siteguide/tags">tags</a>, and in
Web 2.0 the simplest and most powerful semantics are those little
pivot points in Webspace.
</p><p>
Again, if you&#39;re going to be a general purpose platform, you need to
be able to fetch, update, notify and display that data.  Web 2.0
integration usually happens via JSON data structures and 
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representational_State_Transfer">REST</a>
interfaces (some of which, especially those based on 
<a href="http://atompub.org/">AtomPub</a>,
are true REST).  Following on from the data-like pages we serve to
browsers, come the data-like feeds we publish to feed readers and to
other applications.  After feeds, the core technology that gives
Web 2.0 its dynamism and interactivity is 
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_(programming)">Ajax</a> and 
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHTML">DHTML</a>, and
increasingly 
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_(programming)">Comet</a>
(server push to the browser). The core technology
that gives Web 2.0 its users is increasingly 
<a href="http://openid.net/">OpenID</a>.
</p><p>
All of the above are open technologies. You can do Web 2.0 without
proprietary technologies, just like Web 1.0. Indeed, keeping to the
principles that made the Web successful is also essential to the
success of Web 2.0. The Web platform is the first application
platform that has to consider scalability and interoperability, and
will ignore them at its cost.  I have written before about open
data, use of standard data formats and using REST properly to avoid
creating unscalable, walled-garden sites. You don&#39;t need Flash or
SilverLight, you don&#39;t need vast amounts of custom Javascript, you
don&#39;t need function calls tying you to your servers.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b>Programming the Web 2.0 Platform</b>
</p><p>
So, we&#39;ve got the dynamic data that you&#39;d expect of a would-be
platform. But how to drive changes in those data? How do we
program the Web platform to animate all this data?
</p><p>
All Rails programmers will know the above technology list; it comes
with the territory. The Web 2.0 Platform can be very succesfully
powered by Rails and Ruby. Ruby and Rails make Web 2.0
applications simple and quick to program, addressing many of the
needs of simple Web 2.0 applications out of the box. There&#39;s little
doubt that Ruby and Rails will have a secure future riding the
Web 2.0 wave.
</p><p>
However, for many Web 2.0 applications, programming may not even be
necessary, at least not in the procedural or imperative style
programmers expect. 
</p><p>
Look back to the early 90&#39;s: &#39;Web 1.0&#39; made a whole class of
applications easy to write without programming: applications for
navigating information. You just wrote in HTML, declaratively.
</p><p>
Now look back at the long path of evolution of Java, through J2EE,
Spring, AOP, IoC, Domain Driven Design, POJOs. All trying to
achieve the simple goal of &#39;remove all that MVC and persistence
stuff and let us concentrate on business or domain objects&#39;. But
they never quite seemed to get it right. 
</p><p>
But then Rails comes along, and has succeeded by simple virtue of
concentrating on easy manipulation of the 
&#39;<a href="http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html?page=3">Intel Inside</a>&#39;
of Web 2.0 - data. 
</p><p>
It&#39;s reminiscent of the 
&#39;<a href="http://nakedobjects.org/wiki/Main_Page">Naked Objects</a>&#39;
approach to application building with minimal programming (just
business or domain code in POJOs that expose state into the GUI and
are transparently persisted). The 
<a href="http://ajaxian.com/archives/streamlined-naked-objects-for-the-web">Streamlined</a>
project takes Rails even further down this path. Rails&#39; nearest
competitor, <a href="http://www.djangoproject.com/">Django</a>,
has an admin interface that works in a similar way, automatically
generating edit pages based on the data model.
</p><p>
Web 2.0 is about data, about semantics. Web 2.0 is inherently
declarative.  So Web 2.0 applications can be written declaratively -
Web 2.0 mashups can be just wired together and their data animated
by business rules. A bit like programming spreadsheets. 
</p><p>
<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/02/5-ways-to-mix-rip-and-mash-your-data/">Teqlo</a>, 
<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/16/coghead-announces-17000-developers-building-applications-visually/">Coghead</a>, 
<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/02/5-ways-to-mix-rip-and-mash-your-data/">Pipes</a>, 
<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/11/dabbledb-online-app-building-for-everyone/">DabbleDB</a>, 
<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/19/new-site-jumps-into-the-application-creation-space/">LongJump</a>, 
<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/18/microsoft-launches-popfly-mashup-app-creator-built-on-silverlight/">Popfly</a>, 
<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/21/salesforce-dives-deep-into-google-adwords/">AppExchange</a> and
<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/30/wyaworks-app-builder-for-non-coders/">Wyaworks</a> 
are all examples of the different ways to program the new Web 2.0
platform without imperative code.
</p><p>
That&#39;s what we mean by Web-as-platform - not only is the underlying
programming language irrelevant, it will often not even be needed,
certainly for simple data manipulation applications and for many
simple mashups. Being RESTful gives you a massive head start in
this, of course.
</p><p>
While Rails is already in the game with its innate understanding of
Web 2.0 techniques and philosophies, Ruby itself has a huge amount
to offer the would-be declarative programmer, who is making the
transition to this new Web platform from their traditional Java
or .Net platform.  In particular, it is easy to write your domain
logic in a declarative style in Ruby: they call them &#39;DSLs&#39; these
days, but the idea is the same in most examples I&#39;ve seen.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b>Web 2.0 - The Web Redux</b>
</p><p>
Now, if you&#39;ve been following this blog, you&#39;ll know I have a
few opinions on 
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/right-way-to-do-ajax-is-declaratively/">Declarative Web 2.0</a> and on
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/distributed-observer-pattern-rest-dialogues/">patterns for programming REST</a>.
Essentially I argue that, if you want to play in the Web 2.0
platform game, you don&#39;t want to be writing screeds of Javascript
functions that call more functions on your servers. 
</p><p>
I recently presented some ideas along these lines at
the WWW2007 conference, entitled 
&#39;<a href="http://www2007.org/prog-Developers.php#saturday">The Micro Web: putting the Web back into Web 2.0</a>&#39;,
where I also showed a demo written in Python.
</p><p>
This approach combines my 
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/distributed-observer-pattern-rest-dialogues/">Distributed Observer Pattern</a>
with Comet push to enable highly dynamic Web 2.0 applications to be
coded RESTfully and declaratively, with zero Javascript.  The
Distributed Observer Pattern offers a clean programming model for
animating the Web 2.0 dynamic-data technology set I described above. 
</p><p>
I believe the Observer Pattern is core to the way we&#39;ll be
programming when the Web 2.0 Platform hits mainstream.  It enables
the kind of event- and rule-driven programming that matches the
characteristics of the Web 2.0 dynamic data platform. As a 
further killer benefit, it also directly addresses the optimal
utilisation of multicore processors.
</p><p>
I am currently porting my Python implementation of this approach to
Ruby, in the
<a href="http://rubyforge.org/projects/redux/">Redux</a> 
project on Rubyforge.  Redux stands for &#39;Ruby Event-Driven Update
Exchange&#39;.  It uses the highly scalable
<a href="http://rubyforge.org/projects/eventmachine">EventMachine</a>
epoll-based event loop to power its event-driven architecture.
This will be essential when Redux is asked to scale up a 
Comet-based application.
</p><p>
Like Rails, Redux will be a Web (2.0) application framework, but
unlike Rails, it puts the Observer Pattern and event- and
rule-driven programming at its core. 
</p><p>
Redux&#39;s headline is &#39;Web 2.0 in-a-box&#39; or &#39;Naked Objects on the Web&#39;.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b>Conclusion</b>
</p><p>
If you&#39;re in BigCo, and are responsible for setting BigCo&#39;s
technical strategy, then train your Java devs up on Web 2.0 core
technologies such as Ajax, JSON, Atom, Microformats and OpenID.  
</p><p>
And fire up their enthusiasm by tapping into Ruby (perhaps via
JRuby) on your way to the Web 2.0 platform. 
</p><p>
Learn patterns for mashing and integrating. Learn about REST and
event- and rule-driven programming, including declarative DSLs.
</p><p>
When this Web platform hits BigCo, you will probably find that its
REST or ROA style make your SOA integration strategy look rather
complex and unweildy.
</p><p>
Check out the
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/distributed-observer-pattern-rest-dialogues/">Distributed Observer Pattern</a>,
and download
<a href="http://rubyforge.org/projects/redux/">Redux</a>
when it&#39;s done (I&#39;ll let you know if you subscribe here!).
</p><p>
In 2007 and beyond, its the Web itself that&#39;s the platform, not
Java or .Net. But if you want to get there via a language-based
platform, Ruby could be the best way to transition to it.
</p><p>
<i>Note: Everything I said about Ruby and Rails applies equally in
technical terms to Python and Django, but regardless of the
significant benefits of the latter, Ruby and Rails have the Web 2.0
market and mindshare. I&#39;ll probably switch this blog from Django to
Redux sometime this year..</i>
</p><p>
<i>(c) 2007 Duncan Cragg</i>
</p><p>

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        <id>http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/lighter-wins-2007/</id>
        <title>Lighter-than Wins in 2007</title>
        <published>2007-01-18T11:12:00Z</published>
        
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What do all the MAJOR Web 2.0 technologies of 2007 have in
common? 
</p><p>
Let me list them first:
</p><pre>
    M.icroformats (including tags)
    A.jax (including Comet)
    J.SON (plus YAML)
    O.penID (plus SXIP, LID, Yadis)
    R.EST (including Atom, APP)
</pre><p>
What these technologies have in common is that they&#39;re
all <i>lighter</i> than their competitors:
</p><table class="two-col-table"><tr><td><p>Microformats </p></td><td><p> Lighter than the Semantic Web</p></td></tr>
<tr><td><p>Ajax </p></td><td><p> Lighter than Fat Client (!)</p></td></tr>
<tr><td><p>JSON </p></td><td><p> Lighter than XML</p></td></tr>
<tr><td><p>OpenID </p></td><td><p> Lighter than SAML/Liberty Alliance</p></td></tr>
<tr><td><p>REST </p></td><td><p> Lighter than SOA</p></td></tr>
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<p>
</p><div class="summary"><p>
What do all the MAJOR Web 2.0 technologies of 2007 have in
common? 
</p><p>
Let me list them first:
</p><pre>
    M.icroformats (including tags)
    A.jax (including Comet)
    J.SON (plus YAML)
    O.penID (plus SXIP, LID, Yadis)
    R.EST (including Atom, APP)
</pre><p>
What these technologies have in common is that they&#39;re
all <i>lighter</i> than their competitors:
</p><table class="two-col-table"><tr><td><p>Microformats </p></td><td><p> Lighter than the Semantic Web</p></td></tr>
<tr><td><p>Ajax </p></td><td><p> Lighter than Fat Client (!)</p></td></tr>
<tr><td><p>JSON </p></td><td><p> Lighter than XML</p></td></tr>
<tr><td><p>OpenID </p></td><td><p> Lighter than SAML/Liberty Alliance</p></td></tr>
<tr><td><p>REST </p></td><td><p> Lighter than SOA</p></td></tr>
</table><p>
</p></div><p>
I&#39;m reminded of Tim Bray&#39;s 
<a href="http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2004/01/03/TPM1">Technology Predictor Success Matrix</a>
and his appreciation of the 
<a href="http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2004/01/14/TPSM-8020">80:20 phenomenon</a>.
If hitting the sweet spot of achieving a lot with only a little
is the main test of potential, then these five Web 2.0
technologies are all set for success.
</p><p>
So it&#39;s no surprise to see Tim supporting
<a href="http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2006/06/07/Microformats">Microformats</a>
<a href="http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2006/01/08/No-New-XML-Languages">once or</a>
<a href="http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2005/10/06/Whats-Happening">twice</a>
and even
<a href="http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2006/12/21/JSON">JSON</a>,
in spite of his, um, XML background. He also understands and uses
<a href="http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2006/04/19/The-Cost-of-AJAX">Ajax</a>
and backs
<a href="http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2004/09/18/WS-Oppo">REST</a>
(in particular via <a href="http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2005/11/21/Atom-Status">Atom</a>).
Tim has not yet mentioned OpenID, instead referring to 
<a href="http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2006/04/28/SAML-Days">SAML</a> and 
<a href="http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2005/05/15/WS-Federation">Liberty Alliance</a>
(please don&#39;t be crass by leaving a comment speculating on the reason for this...).
</p><p>
These MAJOR Web 2.0 technologies should form the basis of
the two-way, interactive data Web or the Web-as-a-platform
vision that we&#39;ve all been promised.
</p><p>
However, they will need taking a little further this year, in
order to bring them closer together and to make this vision
happen in a seamless way.
</p><p>
A synergy between these 80:20 technologies can potentially
produce much more than just the &#39;next version of the Web&#39;, if
engineered well.
</p><p>
I have already discussed the 
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/microformats-challenge-web-feeds-and-web-apis/">Subversive Microformat</a>,
I&#39;ve promoted
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/right-way-to-do-ajax-is-declaratively/">Declarative Ajax</a>
and currently I&#39;m slowly working up to 
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/getting-data-rest-dialogues/">Symmetric REST</a>.
</p><p>
Next up, I&#39;ll be asking you to consider a web of
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=json+microformat&amp;num=100">JSON Microformats</a>
and ways to merge
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=hcard+openid&amp;num=100">hCard and OpenID</a>
into active user personas - even avatars...
</p><p>
<i>I&#39;ll tag this acronym as &#39;<a href="http://technorati.com/tag/rajmo">rajmo</a>&#39;
instead of &#39;major&#39;, for obvious reasons.</i>
</p><p>

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        <id>http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/setting-data-rest-dialogues/</id>
        <title>Setting Data | The REST Dialogues</title>
        <published>2006-11-15T23:37:00Z</published>
        
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<p>

In an exclusive nine-part dialogue with <i>an imaginary eBay
Architect</i>, we present an accessible discussion of the 
REST vs. SOA issue.
</p><p>
Although eBay have what they call a &#39;REST&#39; interface, it is, in
fact, a 
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/strest-service-trampled-rest-will-break-web-20/">STREST</a>
interface, and only works for one of the many function calls
that they make available via SOAP (GetSearchResults).
</p><p>
In this <a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/getting-data-rest-dialogues/">dialogue series</a>,
I argue the case for eBay to adopt a truly REST approach to
their integration API. 
</p><p>
<b>Part 2: Setting Data</b>
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<p>
</p><div class="summary"><p>
In an exclusive nine-part dialogue with <i>an imaginary eBay
Architect</i>, we present an accessible discussion of the 
REST vs. SOA issue.
</p><p>
Although eBay have what they call a &#39;REST&#39; interface, it is, in
fact, a 
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/strest-service-trampled-rest-will-break-web-20/">STREST</a>
interface, and only works for one of the many function calls
that they make available via SOAP (GetSearchResults).
</p><p>
In this <a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/getting-data-rest-dialogues/">dialogue series</a>,
I argue the case for eBay to adopt a truly REST approach to
their integration API. 
</p><p>
<b>Part 2: Setting Data</b>
</p></div><p>
</p><p>
<b>Duncan Cragg:</b> Now, let&#39;s look at those calls in eBay&#39;s SOAP
API that are expected to change data. There is often a
corresponding &#39;Get&#39; function.  
</p><p>
Examples are GetTaxTable, SetTaxTable and GetMyMessages,
ReviseMyMessages, ReviseMyMessagesFolders, DeleteMyMessages,
etc. 
</p><p>
Here, there is an implicit model of data (or lists of data)
that you can look at, modify, delete, etc.
</p><p>
<b>eBay Architect:</b> It&#39;s not just data: Tax Tables and Messages
have meaning and behaviour internally to the server.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Yes, but we&#39;re talking about what the API is telling
us, here. It says things like GetTaxTable and SetTaxTable!
</p><p>
We&#39;ll come on to business processes later, but just look at
the simple stuff first.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> OK, so what&#39;s the benefit of doing these calls in
HTTP, through POST or whatever?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Again, scalability and interoperability.
</p><p>
In the same way as with GET, you can partition your POST
handling across the URI space. Have your Tax Tables and Message
folders handled by many machines, split by their URIs. This is
an example of the inherent parallelisability of the Web&#39;s
architecture.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> We do partition by function: search, display, sell.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Sure, but you had to &#39;hard-code&#39; this partition: to use
specific heuristics and code to achieve it: URI-based
partitioning is much more generic and flexible, and can be much
finer-grained. You seldom get single-point of failure or
bottleneck issues with good REST architectures.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> If you say so.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Interoperability again derives from the standardisation
of the Content-Types and the schemas of POSTed data. When you
know the meaning of the data you fetch, you also know how to
try and change it, if you can.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> In HTML, you actually get presented a form in some
GET data which explicitly tells you what to POST back - what
the &#39;schema&#39; is.
</p><p>
What&#39;s the equivalent in a general REST integration context
where it&#39;s machines that are doing the POSTing?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Well, the same applies, insofar as the GET data
effectively tells you what any return data should look like.
However, this time it&#39;s in an <i>implicit</i> way.
</p><p>
Where, in the read context, you understood what to do with a
given content type you&#39;d fetched, now, in the write context,
you further understand what you can send back to it again.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Can you give examples, please? The Tax Table perhaps?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Straightforward data updating is the simplest case -
it&#39;s the same content type coming out as going back in. You see
a Tax Table at some URI, then you just PUT a new Tax Table back
at that URI to try and replace it.
</p><p>
All the API function calls beginning &#39;Set&#39; should probably
be implemented this way.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> OK, so how does REST implement our Message API
functions?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> An example of a data format that implies its edit
capabilities by reference to a standard is Atom syndication.
</p><p>
You can GET a list of Atom entries, then POST a new one
according to the Atom Publishing Protocol (APP) specification.
You POST, not to a &#39;service&#39; or handler, but to the URI of
the actual collection you&#39;re adding to.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> So what&#39;s that got to do with our Messages?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> The eBay Message lists are a great candidate for using
this approach, with the benefit that any (recent) feed reader
can be used to view them, and an APP-compliant client used to
manage them. 
</p><p>
All the API function calls beginning &#39;Add&#39; should probably
be implemented in the same way APP adds new entries, or you
should consider using APP itself to implement them.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> OK, so we can replace some calls with a standard set of
REST interactions. But clients still have to know about Tax
Table schemas, User Preferences schemas, Message schemas, etc. 
</p><p>
It&#39;s not enough to simply know about HTTP and HTML to be
interoperable any more, like a browser does. It&#39;s not even
enough to just know APP.
</p><p>
Surely interoperability stops when the content types and
schemas start to proliferate like this?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Schema proliferation is SOA&#39;s problem - so I&#39;m glad you
brought it up!  It&#39;s baked in to the SOA mindset that it&#39;s OK
to design your own interfaces and schemas from scratch each time.
</p><p>
Conversely, the expectation and culture in the Web and especially
in the REST-aware community is to constantly look out for
opportunities to conform and to standardise schemas and
interactions, and to build on layers below that are already
standardised. It&#39;s a side-effect of the shareability of URIs.
</p><p>
With REST you get interoperability at many levels above the
byte-transfer of HTTP. Content type understanding and
standardisation can occur all the way up from characters to Tax
Tables.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> I&#39;m not sure I get this.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> OK: there is some code that understands basic HTTP GET
and PUT, and UTF-8 characters - and doesn&#39;t need to know what a
Tax Table is - some that understands UTF-8 plus XML, some that
understands that plus Atom, or plus XHTML, then XHTML tables
and Microformats like hCalendar, hCard (and hAtom!), then
conference schedules using hCalendar and hCard. Tax Tables
can perhaps use XHTML tables.
</p><p>
Clients may or may not need to know what the schema of a
Message looks like internally in order to be able to do useful
work with Messages at their level of understanding - from
character stream up to APP.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> I&#39;m not sure how general auction schemas fit in there.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> You never know, your eBay schemas might be taken into
account when coming up with new standard content types for
e-commerce!
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Hopefully. We could always put everything into XHTML
tables for you!
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Ha! Go for it. Having done some HTML scraping myself,
I&#39;d welcome such semantics!
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Right, it&#39;s OK when we&#39;re just talking data that you
can read and write - HTTP, APP, REST, whatever may be great for
that - but our API has much more complex business functions in
it that don&#39;t fit that simplistic model.
</p><p>
There&#39;s a whole load of functions in our API that aren&#39;t just
about getting and setting data or collections of data. Some are
eBay- or auction-specific.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b>  This is one of the Myths of REST - that it&#39;s just for
simplistic reading and writing of data. 
</p><p>
It&#39;s a actually a myth that&#39;s often propagated by the REST
community itself, especially with their over-emphasis on the
Four HTTP Verbs, which seem to map so conveniently onto Create,
Read, Update and Delete.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> But they <i>do</i> map so well - I thought that was &#39;good&#39;
REST...
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> It is often good, but can detract from the whole goodness! 
</p><p>
One consequence of this mapping it that people inevitably go on
to see an analogy between REST and databases, and then start to
expect transactions and other database features.
</p><p>
Another consequence of the database analogy is that resources
are seen as lifeless servants of the active client: it takes
away responsibility from a resource to be master of its own
destiny. 
</p><p>
This then causes confusion (even within the REST community)
about the power of the client and even the very meaning of such
basics as 
<a href="http://www.imc.org/atom-protocol/mail-archive/msg05425.html">the PUT method</a>.
</p><p>
The fact is, GET and POST are more than enough to be REST
compliant. This cut-down pair also help focus the mind on URIs,
two-way content transfer, content type or schema and on the
responsibilities of each resource as active players in an
integration scenario.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Sounds like a minority REST view - any support from a
REST luminary for that?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b>  Tim Bray 
<a href="http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/07/03/HTTP-RSS">has a</a>
<a href="http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2006/03/26/On-REST#p-5">history</a>
<a href="http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/CarrotVsOrangeDiscuss">of</a>
<a href="http://www.imc.org/atom-syntax/mail-archive/msg02869.html">suggesting</a>
that GET and POST are enough.
</p><p>
And recently, there has been further high-level support from
Sam Ruby and Leonard Richardson in their manifesto for an 
<a href="http://www.crummy.com/writing/REST-Web-Services/">upcoming book</a>.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> I bet you still get told off, but it sounds reasonable
to me.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> So, to summarise: use GET to read data, then POST back
to the <i>same</i> URI to <i>suggest</i> changes to the resource there.
</p><p>
All based on a given level of understanding and interpretation
of the content type and any corresponding interaction standards.
</p><p>
Interoperability and scalability in a nutshell!
</p><p>
Now I will explain how there&#39;s more to REST than simple reading
and (attempted) writing of resources. We&#39;re still only
two-ninths done...
</p><p>
<i>(c) 2006 Duncan Cragg</i>
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
In Part 3: <a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/business-functions-rest-dialogues/">Business Functions</a>.
</p><p>
<i>Note that the opinions of our imaginary eBay Architect don&#39;t
necessarily represent or reflect in any way the official
opinions of eBay or the opinions of anyone at eBay.</i>
</p><p>
<i>Indeed, I can&#39;t guarantee that the opinions of our real blogger
necessarily represent or reflect in any way the official
opinions of Roy Fielding...</i>
</p><p>

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        <id>http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/getting-data-rest-dialogues/</id>
        <title>Getting Data | The REST Dialogues</title>
        <published>2006-11-14T00:05:00Z</published>
        
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<p>

In an exclusive nine-part dialogue with <i>an imaginary eBay
Architect</i>, we present an accessible discussion of the 
REST vs. SOA issue.
</p><p>
Although eBay have what they call a &#39;REST&#39; interface, it is, in
fact, a 
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/strest-service-trampled-rest-will-break-web-20/">STREST</a>
interface, and only works for one of the many function calls
that they make available via SOAP (GetSearchResults).
</p><p>
In this <a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/getting-data-rest-dialogues/">dialogue series</a>,
I argue the case for eBay to adopt a truly REST approach to
their integration API. 
</p><p>
<b>Part 1: Getting Data</b>
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<p>
</p><div class="summary"><p>
In an exclusive nine-part dialogue with <i>an imaginary eBay
Architect</i>, we present an accessible discussion of the 
REST vs. SOA issue.
</p><p>
Although eBay have what they call a &#39;REST&#39; interface, it is, in
fact, a 
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/strest-service-trampled-rest-will-break-web-20/">STREST</a>
interface, and only works for one of the many function calls
that they make available via SOAP (GetSearchResults).
</p><p>
In this <a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/getting-data-rest-dialogues/">dialogue series</a>,
I argue the case for eBay to adopt a truly REST approach to
their integration API. 
</p><p>
<b>Part 1: Getting Data</b>
</p></div><p>
</p><p>
<b>Duncan Cragg:</b> So - let&#39;s get straight to my argument: I
claim that your SOAP APIs, as instances of the SOA style,
won&#39;t scale or interoperate as well as they would if they were
implemented in the REST style. Which, in the form of the Web,
has largely proven scalability and interoperability.
</p><p>
<b>eBay Architect:</b> SOA won&#39;t scale or interoperate and REST
will?  You&#39;ve got some explaining to do there: the whole
industry is going SOA crazy, and we&#39;re following that trend.
You&#39;ll need to give specific examples. 
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> OK.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> And even if it is true, we don&#39;t care about
scalability and interoperability: we have quite low traffic on
our APIs - certainly compared to port 80; plus we&#39;re eBay so we
don&#39;t need to interoperate with anyone.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> That&#39;s true now, but if the Web 2.0 vision comes
together, you may care: your API traffic could increase
dramatically.  It would be better to be the one prepared for
the scale of the API-Web! 
</p><p>
Can you really argue in your company that you don&#39;t need to be
scalable? What if your port 80 traffic needs to be routed to
your APIs for some reason?
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Maybe.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b>  As for interoperability, you could be excluded from
Web 2.0 industry-boosting consortia, or excluded from perhaps
hugely popular Web 2.0 applications in the future...
</p><p>
Interoperability raises the level of the market as a whole.
Market players shouldn&#39;t differentiate on what&#39;s common to
them, they should differentiate on the level above. 
</p><p>
It also depends on the value you place on having happy
customers who don&#39;t have to do the same thing multiple ways or
multiple times.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Ha! I&#39;m sure there&#39;s a name for that style of argument!
</p><p>
So, let&#39;s say we want to be good scalable and interoperable
citizens in a future Web 2.0 world: show me how REST can help
us more than SOA and SOAP do!
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
</p><p>
<b>Getting Data</b>
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> OK, let&#39;s look at your SOAP API.  There are 72 function
calls in there that begin with &#39;Get&#39;. Each one specifies a
particular piece of data that you can fetch.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Yes, our API is extremely rich.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Sure, but you don&#39;t need a new function call for
everything you can get from your system: you can just use HTTP
GET!
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> OK, but it&#39;s just data going in to request the
information, then data coming back out again. What difference
does it make whether we use HTTP or SOAP to carry those
messages?  You&#39;ve just moved the name onto your URI!
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> It&#39;s not just any &#39;data going in&#39;: the URI can be
passed around for anyone to re-use. This URI is more
interoperable because so much deployed software understands it.
No-one understands &#39;GetSearchResults()&#39;!
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> OK.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Another example of how the URI can glue things together
is that the data returned from your GETs can have more URIs in
them, ready to go!  You won&#39;t get data from your Web Service
with &#39;GetItem()&#39; in it..
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Heh - I s&#39;pose not.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> REST also talks about the formats of the data behind a
URI. In a GET, the response data is given a Content-Type, and
there&#39;s an expectation that clients will understand the types
of data being returned: interoperability comes from broad
standardisation of return data.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> But we return XML, and our schemas are published.
They&#39;re specific to our application anyway.  That wouldn&#39;t
change with REST.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b>The explicit statement of Content-Type reflects a
culture of agreement forced by the sharability of URIs: your
URIs are more sharable when more clients understand the data
they dereference to.
</p><p>
On the other hand, the culture of SOA is to declare custom
WSDL and custom XML schemas.
</p><p>
Like I said, one day you may care about interoperability, and
having an architecture that puts a high value on content type
and schema standardisation, as REST does, puts you one step
ahead. 
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> We&#39;ll see.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> You can also gain scalability by partitioning on those URIs.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> We already do plenty of partitioning of our data and functions.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Yes, but URI partitioning cuts right through the system
in a very simple way: your partitioning is an application-specific 
optimisation which has to be hand-coded behind the SOAP interface.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Mmm. Maybe.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Another benefit of using HTTP over using SOAP is
that you get cacheing built in to the architecture, which you
can start using as soon as you ask for it in the headers.
This boosts scalability.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> OK, that&#39;s fair. Our clients would have to write their
own caches, should they need them. But in general we advise
against cacheing our data and don&#39;t put expiry on them or
have not-modified checks.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Which is where you&#39;re potentially inefficient.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Maybe. We internally cache things like the data behind 
GetCategories, and advise our users how to cache it themselves.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Again - it&#39;s application-specific.
</p><p>
So - even in the simple cases of fetching data, REST has given
you much greater scalability and interoperability than your
SOAP interface - as well as a simpler, more generic approach.
</p><p>
And we&#39;re only one-ninth of the way through our conversation!
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> How do you know that??
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Aaah...
</p><p>
<i>(c) 2006 Duncan Cragg</i>
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
In Part 2: <a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/setting-data-rest-dialogues/">Setting Data</a>.
</p><p>
<i>Note that the opinions of our imaginary eBay Architect don&#39;t
necessarily represent or reflect in any way the official
opinions of eBay or the opinions of anyone at eBay.</i>
</p><p>
<i>Indeed, I can&#39;t guarantee that the opinions of our real blogger
necessarily represent or reflect in any way the official
opinions of Roy Fielding...</i>
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