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        <published>2007-10-05T11:22:00Z</published>
        
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Last night&#39;s 
<a href="http://osjam.truemesh.com/">Google London Open Source Jam</a>
(also <a href="http://www.red-bean.com/ospowiki/LondonOpenSourceJam05Talks">here</a>)
was on the subject of the &#39;Web&#39; (didn&#39;t they invent that? Oh no,
that was Microsoft).
</p><p>
This event has been getting better and better each time I&#39;ve
attended. There were some very interesting lightning talks held
together with a tight structure and plenty of chance to chat,
drink cold Leffe and eat cold pizza. And nick [<i>transatlantic
translation: &#39;steal&#39;</i>] the 
<a href="http://www.greenandblacks.com/uk/productdetails.php?pageid=27&amp;cid=6&amp;pid=11">Green &amp; Black&#39;s chocolate</a>.
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An ideal Micro Conference...
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Last night&#39;s 
<a href="http://osjam.truemesh.com/">Google London Open Source Jam</a>
(also <a href="http://www.red-bean.com/ospowiki/LondonOpenSourceJam05Talks">here</a>)
was on the subject of the &#39;Web&#39; (didn&#39;t they invent that? Oh no,
that was Microsoft).
</p><p>
This event has been getting better and better each time I&#39;ve
attended. There were some very interesting lightning talks held
together with a tight structure and plenty of chance to chat,
drink cold Leffe and eat cold pizza. And nick [<i>transatlantic
translation: &#39;steal&#39;</i>] the 
<a href="http://www.greenandblacks.com/uk/productdetails.php?pageid=27&amp;cid=6&amp;pid=11">Green &amp; Black&#39;s chocolate</a>.
</p><p>
An ideal Micro Conference...
</p></div><p>
I arrived late (it starts at 6pm) and spent some time catching up with
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/92443667@N00/1488471991/in/set-72157602268864450/">ex-Thoughtworks colleagues</a>,
so I missed Dion &quot;Ajaxian&quot; Almaer&#39;s 
<a href="http://www.slideshare.net/dion/future-of-web-apps-google-gears">Google Gears slideset from FOWA</a>.  
Go there now and check it out.
</p><p>
Thus the first talk I saw
was a nifty piece of widgetry by Steven Goodwin called 
<a href="http://www.bluedust.com/minerva/">WARP</a>. In WARP, interacting with a page of
&#39;applets&#39; changed the URL to encode those applets&#39; current state. If
you link to the current page, it will always show that state.
Very long URLs, you can imagine. None of that fancy Ajax stuff.
RESTful, dare I say. Nice API server-side for unpacking your
applet params. 
</p><p>
A trip to the lavatories [<i>transatlantic translation:
&#39;restroom&#39;/&#39;bathroom&#39;</i>] revealed that they are, indeed, doing that
<a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2007/01/introducing-testing-on-toilet.html">Testing in the Toilet</a>
project in Google. It works, too! I learned something. Other intelligence on
Google&#39;s Inner Workings include confirmation of the beanbags and of
the high quality, free grub to which I have already alluded.
</p><p>
A nice bloke from Yahoo! (<a href="http://kid666.com/blog">Tom Hughes-Croucher</a>:
another spy?) came along to sell his idea that, in the
collaborative world of open-minded hackers, we who run websites
could help each other with our 404s. If I get a 404, I use the
referrer link to tell you, via some RESTful POST, that your link to
me is bust (assuming I don&#39;t intend to fix it myself).
</p><p>
I think the world is a little more selfish, so you need to decide
who hurts more - the site who sends their visitors to a dead-end,
or the site delivering that dead-end to a new visitor. I suspect
the latter, by a small margin, as it&#39;s not exactly a nice welcome.
So it&#39;s up to them to let the new visitor down more gently, and to
notify the publisher of the broken link with little or no cost to
them. For example, a really sociable 404-ing site could just
redirect the hapless visitor back to the referring page, adding
&#39;?broken=links&#39; to the URL - hopefully to be picked up by log
scanning scripts at the referring site.
</p><p>
Next up, <a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/">yours truly</a> taking 
<a href="http://www2007.org/prog-Developers.php#saturday">yet another chance</a>
to promote his excellent 
<a href="http://the-u-web.org">Micro Web</a> thingy. 
Couple of people asked about it afterwards - including that nice
chap from Yahoo! Also, a smart - and nice - chap called Toby 
(<a href="http://www.thetobe.com/">this one?</a>) got me into a deep discussion
on imperative vs. event-driven vs. state-driven programming. He was
apparently an old-timer like me, as he was able to engage in
dewy-eyed Functional Programming recollections. I managed to give
out about four full colour printouts about the
<a href="http://the-u-web.org">Micro Web</a>, 
and to collect some good calling cards.
</p><p>
However, <a href="http://joe.truemesh.com">Joe Walnes</a>, even a pint down in
the pub afterwards, still refused to sign up for Micro Web duties.
This in spite of over three years of intensive lobbying, including
eight months of me working Trojan-horse-like in his kitchen, on The 2005
Implementation.
</p><p>
Another ex-Thoughtworks colleague, 
<a href="http://www.pubbitch.org/blog">Simon Stewart</a>
took yet another chance to promote his promising
<a href="http://code.google.com/p/webdriver/">Webdriver</a> thingy. And a very
interesting project it is becoming. Still needs more work - on IE
support, etc - but I&#39;ll probably be using it in my new job at the
<a href="http://www.ft.com">Financial Times</a>.
</p><p>
Another ex-Thoughtworks colleague, 
<a href="http://abc.truemesh.com/">Chris Matts</a> took a chance to promote
his and Andy Pols&#39; interesting new
<a href="http://demo.pols.co.uk/dream/">Dream Machine</a> thingy.
Perhaps a bit like <a href="http://www.cambrianhouse.com">Cambrian House</a> - you put 
your dreams and ideas into it and people expand on them.
Chris is a natural on-stage - and even used the age-old trick of
promising lots of money for no effort, to get our attention at the start.
</p><p>
All I could come up with for the <a href="http://the-u-web.org">Micro Web</a>
was &#39;Cheaper, Wider, Faster&#39;...
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<i>Updated: added reference to Dion Almaer, details about WARP, swapped in the 
picture of TWers that I was waiting for and fixed a minor blunder thanks to that 
ever-sharp ThoughtWorker,  
<a href="http://dan.bodar.com/">Dan Bodart</a>..</i>

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        <title>How Ruby can enable the Web 2.0 Platform</title>
        <published>2007-06-26T15:17:00Z</published>
        
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<a href="http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html">Web 2.0&#39;s definition</a>
includes seeing the Web as an application platform. Which means it
is in competition with Java and .Net, and with SOA, for both local
and widely distributed applications.
</p><p>
If the Web is going to be a platform, the skills you need to learn
to program it are the core Web 2.0 technologies such as Ajax, JSON,
Atom, Microformats and OpenID.
</p><p>
And Ruby. This language, that&#39;s capturing the hearts of many Web 2.0
programmers, is ideal for easing the transition from the Java
and .Net platforms to the Web platform, as I will show.
</p><p>
Even if you&#39;re part of a big company that is generally immune to the
latest trends, the marriage of Ruby and the Web-as-platform may be
something to prepare for. It could even displace your SOA agenda...
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<a href="http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html">Web 2.0&#39;s definition</a>
includes seeing the Web as an application platform. Which means it
is in competition with Java and .Net, and with SOA, for both local
and widely distributed applications.
</p><p>
If the Web is going to be a platform, the skills you need to learn
to program it are the core Web 2.0 technologies such as Ajax, JSON,
Atom, Microformats and OpenID.
</p><p>
And Ruby. This language, that&#39;s capturing the hearts of many Web 2.0
programmers, is ideal for easing the transition from the Java
and .Net platforms to the Web platform, as I will show.
</p><p>
Even if you&#39;re part of a big company that is generally immune to the
latest trends, the marriage of Ruby and the Web-as-platform may be
something to prepare for. It could even displace your SOA agenda...
</p></div><p>
Few would disagree that the Ruby language is riding the wave generated
by Ruby-on-Rails. In turn, Rails is riding the Web 2.0 wave, coming
as it does from underpinning the very Web 2.0 
<a href="http://www.37signals.com">37signals</a> 
product suite.  
</p><p>
Rails and Ruby have tapped into the tech Zeitgeist of friendly,
simple and powerful. The speed with which the Ruby and Rails
communities have delivered the key components of Web 2.0 is matched
by the speed at which 
<a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/05/state_of_the_co_10.html">Ruby and Rails books are leaving the shelves</a>.
</p><p>
What is the ideal platform of Web 2.0? Will it be Rails and Ruby?
Will Ruby ride the Web 2.0 wave into the mainstream in the same way
Java rode the Web 1.0 wave?
</p><p>
Well, here&#39;s the problem with that question: Web 2.0 is supposed to
be primarily about the <i>Web</i> itself as the platform, as 
<a href="http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html">explained first</a>
by Tim O&#39;Reilly and then by a thousand Web 2.0 vendors and industry
watchers after him.
</p><p>
Web-as-platform is not just vendor hype or pundit hand-waving.
Let&#39;s think about what O&#39;Reilly meant by that.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b>Web as Platform</b>
</p><p>
Web 2.0 is about making the Web more interactive, and thus able to
support applications where Java and .Net would once have been
considered the sole delivery platforms.
</p><p>
The fact that the technologies of the Web can be turned to this
use is a shift with far-reaching implications.
</p><p>
Broadly, the shift we are seeing is from the one-way, static
document delivery of Web 1.0 towards the two-way, dynamic data
exchange of Web 2.0.
</p><p>
This fundamental repurposing is delivering more complex, interactive
applications that work inside our browsers and which fully leverage
the benefits of online operation. 
</p><p>
Web 2.0 is bringing the user and their stuff <i>into</i> the very Web
that they hitherto only passively consumed.  This network-enablement
of the user in turn enables their <i>social</i> networking and their
shared creativity and self-expression. 
</p><p>
Web 2.0 has tapped into a deep human need - a fact reflected in the
vast traffic volumes and correspondingly vast valuations of Web 2.0
startups that we&#39;re currently seeing.
</p><p>
But Web 2.0 is not just for the startups: Enterprise Web 2.0 is
coming! The bigco.com site is going to be looking a little, well,
static and lifeless when compared to the new sites that are
springing up everywhere, and that most of BigCo&#39;s employees are
using. Further, BigCo can gain huge benefits from Web 2.0 approaches
empowering and connecting those employees on the Intranet. And that
Intranet is an ideal platform for deploying company-wide, interactive
applications.
</p><p>
This shift in the Web to two-way dynamic data is being powered by a
set of technologies that a Web platform programmer is going to have
to learn.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b>Web 2.0 Platform Technologies</b>
</p><p>
Anything that claims to be an application platform must support
data. Web 2.0 is above all the data Web. Web 2.0 is about
semantics, not free text and font sizes. Hence, it inevitably starts
with data-oriented formats such as 
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XHTML">XHTML</a>, 
<a href="http://www.yaml.org/">YAML</a> and 
<a href="http://json.org/">JSON</a>.  In Web 2.0
more than ever, we talk about data not documents and about
separating data from its presentation.  CSS is big in Web 2.0, for
good reason (not just for gradient fills). Inside the page of a
self-respecting Web 2.0 application, you&#39;ll often find 
<a href="http://microformats.org/">Microformats</a> - again, 
semantics in the page: publishing concise data of widely-understood
standard formats. Some of those Microformats may be 
<a href="http://support.technorati.com/support/siteguide/tags">tags</a>, and in
Web 2.0 the simplest and most powerful semantics are those little
pivot points in Webspace.
</p><p>
Again, if you&#39;re going to be a general purpose platform, you need to
be able to fetch, update, notify and display that data.  Web 2.0
integration usually happens via JSON data structures and 
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representational_State_Transfer">REST</a>
interfaces (some of which, especially those based on 
<a href="http://atompub.org/">AtomPub</a>,
are true REST).  Following on from the data-like pages we serve to
browsers, come the data-like feeds we publish to feed readers and to
other applications.  After feeds, the core technology that gives
Web 2.0 its dynamism and interactivity is 
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_(programming)">Ajax</a> and 
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHTML">DHTML</a>, and
increasingly 
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_(programming)">Comet</a>
(server push to the browser). The core technology
that gives Web 2.0 its users is increasingly 
<a href="http://openid.net/">OpenID</a>.
</p><p>
All of the above are open technologies. You can do Web 2.0 without
proprietary technologies, just like Web 1.0. Indeed, keeping to the
principles that made the Web successful is also essential to the
success of Web 2.0. The Web platform is the first application
platform that has to consider scalability and interoperability, and
will ignore them at its cost.  I have written before about open
data, use of standard data formats and using REST properly to avoid
creating unscalable, walled-garden sites. You don&#39;t need Flash or
SilverLight, you don&#39;t need vast amounts of custom Javascript, you
don&#39;t need function calls tying you to your servers.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b>Programming the Web 2.0 Platform</b>
</p><p>
So, we&#39;ve got the dynamic data that you&#39;d expect of a would-be
platform. But how to drive changes in those data? How do we
program the Web platform to animate all this data?
</p><p>
All Rails programmers will know the above technology list; it comes
with the territory. The Web 2.0 Platform can be very succesfully
powered by Rails and Ruby. Ruby and Rails make Web 2.0
applications simple and quick to program, addressing many of the
needs of simple Web 2.0 applications out of the box. There&#39;s little
doubt that Ruby and Rails will have a secure future riding the
Web 2.0 wave.
</p><p>
However, for many Web 2.0 applications, programming may not even be
necessary, at least not in the procedural or imperative style
programmers expect. 
</p><p>
Look back to the early 90&#39;s: &#39;Web 1.0&#39; made a whole class of
applications easy to write without programming: applications for
navigating information. You just wrote in HTML, declaratively.
</p><p>
Now look back at the long path of evolution of Java, through J2EE,
Spring, AOP, IoC, Domain Driven Design, POJOs. All trying to
achieve the simple goal of &#39;remove all that MVC and persistence
stuff and let us concentrate on business or domain objects&#39;. But
they never quite seemed to get it right. 
</p><p>
But then Rails comes along, and has succeeded by simple virtue of
concentrating on easy manipulation of the 
&#39;<a href="http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html?page=3">Intel Inside</a>&#39;
of Web 2.0 - data. 
</p><p>
It&#39;s reminiscent of the 
&#39;<a href="http://nakedobjects.org/wiki/Main_Page">Naked Objects</a>&#39;
approach to application building with minimal programming (just
business or domain code in POJOs that expose state into the GUI and
are transparently persisted). The 
<a href="http://ajaxian.com/archives/streamlined-naked-objects-for-the-web">Streamlined</a>
project takes Rails even further down this path. Rails&#39; nearest
competitor, <a href="http://www.djangoproject.com/">Django</a>,
has an admin interface that works in a similar way, automatically
generating edit pages based on the data model.
</p><p>
Web 2.0 is about data, about semantics. Web 2.0 is inherently
declarative.  So Web 2.0 applications can be written declaratively -
Web 2.0 mashups can be just wired together and their data animated
by business rules. A bit like programming spreadsheets. 
</p><p>
<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/02/5-ways-to-mix-rip-and-mash-your-data/">Teqlo</a>, 
<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/16/coghead-announces-17000-developers-building-applications-visually/">Coghead</a>, 
<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/02/5-ways-to-mix-rip-and-mash-your-data/">Pipes</a>, 
<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/03/11/dabbledb-online-app-building-for-everyone/">DabbleDB</a>, 
<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/19/new-site-jumps-into-the-application-creation-space/">LongJump</a>, 
<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/18/microsoft-launches-popfly-mashup-app-creator-built-on-silverlight/">Popfly</a>, 
<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/21/salesforce-dives-deep-into-google-adwords/">AppExchange</a> and
<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/30/wyaworks-app-builder-for-non-coders/">Wyaworks</a> 
are all examples of the different ways to program the new Web 2.0
platform without imperative code.
</p><p>
That&#39;s what we mean by Web-as-platform - not only is the underlying
programming language irrelevant, it will often not even be needed,
certainly for simple data manipulation applications and for many
simple mashups. Being RESTful gives you a massive head start in
this, of course.
</p><p>
While Rails is already in the game with its innate understanding of
Web 2.0 techniques and philosophies, Ruby itself has a huge amount
to offer the would-be declarative programmer, who is making the
transition to this new Web platform from their traditional Java
or .Net platform.  In particular, it is easy to write your domain
logic in a declarative style in Ruby: they call them &#39;DSLs&#39; these
days, but the idea is the same in most examples I&#39;ve seen.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b>Web 2.0 - The Web Redux</b>
</p><p>
Now, if you&#39;ve been following this blog, you&#39;ll know I have a
few opinions on 
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/right-way-to-do-ajax-is-declaratively/">Declarative Web 2.0</a> and on
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/distributed-observer-pattern-rest-dialogues/">patterns for programming REST</a>.
Essentially I argue that, if you want to play in the Web 2.0
platform game, you don&#39;t want to be writing screeds of Javascript
functions that call more functions on your servers. 
</p><p>
I recently presented some ideas along these lines at
the WWW2007 conference, entitled 
&#39;<a href="http://www2007.org/prog-Developers.php#saturday">The Micro Web: putting the Web back into Web 2.0</a>&#39;,
where I also showed a demo written in Python.
</p><p>
This approach combines my 
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/distributed-observer-pattern-rest-dialogues/">Distributed Observer Pattern</a>
with Comet push to enable highly dynamic Web 2.0 applications to be
coded RESTfully and declaratively, with zero Javascript.  The
Distributed Observer Pattern offers a clean programming model for
animating the Web 2.0 dynamic-data technology set I described above. 
</p><p>
I believe the Observer Pattern is core to the way we&#39;ll be
programming when the Web 2.0 Platform hits mainstream.  It enables
the kind of event- and rule-driven programming that matches the
characteristics of the Web 2.0 dynamic data platform. As a 
further killer benefit, it also directly addresses the optimal
utilisation of multicore processors.
</p><p>
I am currently porting my Python implementation of this approach to
Ruby, in the
<a href="http://rubyforge.org/projects/redux/">Redux</a> 
project on Rubyforge.  Redux stands for &#39;Ruby Event-Driven Update
Exchange&#39;.  It uses the highly scalable
<a href="http://rubyforge.org/projects/eventmachine">EventMachine</a>
epoll-based event loop to power its event-driven architecture.
This will be essential when Redux is asked to scale up a 
Comet-based application.
</p><p>
Like Rails, Redux will be a Web (2.0) application framework, but
unlike Rails, it puts the Observer Pattern and event- and
rule-driven programming at its core. 
</p><p>
Redux&#39;s headline is &#39;Web 2.0 in-a-box&#39; or &#39;Naked Objects on the Web&#39;.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b>Conclusion</b>
</p><p>
If you&#39;re in BigCo, and are responsible for setting BigCo&#39;s
technical strategy, then train your Java devs up on Web 2.0 core
technologies such as Ajax, JSON, Atom, Microformats and OpenID.  
</p><p>
And fire up their enthusiasm by tapping into Ruby (perhaps via
JRuby) on your way to the Web 2.0 platform. 
</p><p>
Learn patterns for mashing and integrating. Learn about REST and
event- and rule-driven programming, including declarative DSLs.
</p><p>
When this Web platform hits BigCo, you will probably find that its
REST or ROA style make your SOA integration strategy look rather
complex and unweildy.
</p><p>
Check out the
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/distributed-observer-pattern-rest-dialogues/">Distributed Observer Pattern</a>,
and download
<a href="http://rubyforge.org/projects/redux/">Redux</a>
when it&#39;s done (I&#39;ll let you know if you subscribe here!).
</p><p>
In 2007 and beyond, its the Web itself that&#39;s the platform, not
Java or .Net. But if you want to get there via a language-based
platform, Ruby could be the best way to transition to it.
</p><p>
<i>Note: Everything I said about Ruby and Rails applies equally in
technical terms to Python and Django, but regardless of the
significant benefits of the latter, Ruby and Rails have the Web 2.0
market and mindshare. I&#39;ll probably switch this blog from Django to
Redux sometime this year..</i>
</p><p>
<i>(c) 2007 Duncan Cragg</i>
</p><p>

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<p>

In an exclusive nine-part dialogue with <i>an imaginary eBay
Architect</i>, we present an accessible discussion of the 
REST vs. SOA issue.
</p><p>
Although eBay have what they call a &#39;REST&#39; interface, it is, in
fact, a 
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/strest-service-trampled-rest-will-break-web-20/">STREST</a>
interface, and only works for a few of the many function calls
that they make available via SOAP (GetSearchResults, GetItem,
GetCategoryListings, etc).
</p><p>
In this <a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/getting-data-rest-dialogues/">dialogue series</a>,
I argue the case for eBay to adopt a truly REST approach to
their integration API. 
</p><p>
<b>Part 5: The Distributed Observer Pattern</b>
 &#160; ...
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<p>
</p><div class="summary"><p>
In an exclusive nine-part dialogue with <i>an imaginary eBay
Architect</i>, we present an accessible discussion of the 
REST vs. SOA issue.
</p><p>
Although eBay have what they call a &#39;REST&#39; interface, it is, in
fact, a 
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/strest-service-trampled-rest-will-break-web-20/">STREST</a>
interface, and only works for a few of the many function calls
that they make available via SOAP (GetSearchResults, GetItem,
GetCategoryListings, etc).
</p><p>
In this <a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/getting-data-rest-dialogues/">dialogue series</a>,
I argue the case for eBay to adopt a truly REST approach to
their integration API. 
</p><p>
<b>Part 5: The Distributed Observer Pattern</b>
</p></div><p>
</p><p>
<b>eBay Architect:</b> So, can you summarise your argument that &#39;REST
isn&#39;t just about reading and writing data&#39;, and explain your
view on RESTful business logic?
</p><p>
<b>Duncan Cragg:</b> OK. The whole collection of related resources
determines where things stand at any given time. 
</p><p>
Resources are masters of their own destiny - guided by rules
declared in the standard to which their content type conforms.
</p><p>
These rules, or business logic, run on notification of any
declarations of the state of peer resources, or on arrival of
any state via POST. Such peer states and POSTs are <i>not</i>
commands, although it is possible to go ahead and define a 
special command or edit command content type.
</p><p>
The rules aim to satisfy the business or domain constraints on
the mutual states of these resources - updating and creating
resources accordingly and causing appropriate side-effects
outside the server, such as financial transactions and emails.
</p><p>
These transformations are state driven. Even though the
&#39;tension&#39; in unresolved rules may be <i>detected</i> by events,
that tension <i>exists</i>, not in those events as such, but in
resource state.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> That sounds like a core difference to SOA.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Indeed. It&#39;s a Resource-Oriented Architecture. And ROAs
are declarative, not imperative like SOAs.
</p><p>
We have a world of resources declaring their current state, and
resources settling into new states depending on the current
state of related resources. These state changes can be
driven by hard-coded resource animation logic, or by simpler,
clearer, more scalable, declarative state transformation rules.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Remind me of those patterns for notifying state change.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Resource states are either polled via GET or actively
notified via POST.  Such actively POSTed state could be from a
resource that also happens to be GETable, could be simply a link to
such a resource, or could cause such a GETable resource to be
created on the target server.  Alternatively, the POSTed state
could be considered too transient to record in a GETable
resource, but can still trigger transformation in its target
resource.
</p><p>
The above eBay examples used the pattern of &#39;server creates
GETable copy of POSTed resource&#39;, and also &#39;second server
hosts GETable copy of POST-notified resource&#39;.
</p><p>
What I have described is a general programming model because,
in general, such simple, declarative, transformational
mechanisms are Turing Complete.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> I&#39;m sure it&#39;s a novel perspective - even to RESTians!
Again, do you have any high-level RESTian support for this?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Any web resource that is a derivative of, or is dependent
on, one or more other resources is using this approach.
</p><p>
Like I said before, there is an example of a 
<a href="http://wellformedweb.org/story/1">similar approach by Joe Gregorio</a>
on his &#39;Well-Formed Web&#39; site for alerting resources to peer
resources of mutual interest.
</p><p>
Every time you would POST some data, consider making that data
GETable and POST its URI instead, as a notification of the data
existing. 
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> GETable POST data? You sure that&#39;s REST-compliant?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> In REST integration, things become more symmetric 
than in the client-server Web, or rather, the &#39;client-resource&#39;
Web. We can start to talk about the &#39;resource-resource&#39; Web!
</p><p>
But anyway, we&#39;re already halfway to the symmetric resource-resource
Web when we POST - not to a <i>service</i>, but to a <i>URI</i>. Resources
can already both issue <i>and</i> receive state, which is a pretty
symmetric state of affairs. 
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> I never thought of it that way - I keep forgetting that
you can POST right back to a resource you just fetched.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> But think one step on: the POSTed data has a Content-Type
but no URI!
</p><p>
Why not close the loop and have this POSTed data be a first-class
resource (with a URI) that POSTs <i>itself</i> to the target. And it can
<i>itself</i> GET that target or be POSTed to by that target in return.
</p><p>
That really is a Resource-Oriented Architecture. Once resources are
seen as equal and active participants in RESTful integration, it
becomes irrelevant whether their state is transferred by GET or by
POST.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> I&#39;m still having trouble with this pattern of POST just
being a pro-active GET.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Making POSTed data GETable more correctly moves the
responsibility to the target resource to fetch the incoming resource
state when its ready (rather than being bombarded by state it hasn&#39;t
asked for).
</p><p>
Once the target is interested, updates can be POSTed directly as
they happen, to prevent the target polling, or notification of
an updated URI POSTed to trigger the target to re-GET the changed
resource when it wants (thereby updating the caches).
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Hmm - makes clients look like servers..
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Since our &#39;clients&#39; in REST integration are also &#39;servers&#39;
in other contexts, it is easier to set up client-side resources than
on the browser-based Web. One objection to cookies on the Web is
that they are state or resource that has no URI. So give your
&#39;client&#39; state a URI!  And put any client-specific server resources
on your own &#39;client&#39; host.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Is anyone doing this sort of thing?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Well, in fact there are many examples of this
POST-notification of a GETable resource already happening
between web sites.  Like submitting a link to your site to an
indexing engine and letting it crawl (or poll) it.
</p><p>
Trackback pings are another example: POST a URI along with a
sample of your page.  And the Microformat rel-tag adds your
article to Technorati&#39;s tag index when you ping their servers
with the URI of the article.
</p><p>
Further, imagine POSTing to some new site a link to your hCard
on your own server, to save you having to type your name and
address again. And you&#39;d never need to manually update sites
when your address changes: just ping &#39;em all.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Ah - but I thought all URIs should be GETable. The ping URI
you&#39;re POSTing <i>to</i> in these examples isn&#39;t always one that you
can also GET!
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Indeed - so think how much more powerful it would be if
we did close the loop and provide or create a GETable resource to
POST these notifications to. 
</p><p>
For example, imagine a page containing an hCalendar event. Now point
to it with a rel=&quot;attending&quot; link.  When the hCalendar discovers
your intention (using a direct POST ping of your page&#39;s URI to the
hCalendar page&#39;s URI - or perhaps through the referrer trick from
people clicking through), it adds your referring page to a list of
attendees inside the hCalendar. The hCalendar could either contain
lists of backlinks to the attendee&#39;s pages, which may in turn carry
hCards, or it could contain lists of complete hCards copied over.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Sounds like a good use of Microformats.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> These examples make crawling and polling (even with
If-Modified-Since <i>et al</i>) look like a clumsy version of the more
proactive POST. 
</p><p>
Web Feeds and general publish-subscribe are further examples where
POST may be used to notify changes on a resource - giving the feed
consumer first-class resource status with their own URI. 
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> I&#39;d never think of using HTTP in this way.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Obviously this only applies where the feed consumer is a
visible and POSTable server and where timeliness is crucial. And
probably where the number of subscribers is relatively small, unless
asynchronous I/O and an event-driven architecture are employed, and
you don&#39;t wait for the response to each POST.
</p><p>
This isn&#39;t done now simply because of the asymmetry of the current
Web, <i>an asymmetry which we are free of in REST integration</i>.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> What about all those REST rules about idempotent and unsafe
methods?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> We&#39;re not mixing GET and POST in that sense, just turning
the tables on the asymmetric Web.  GET is still cacheable, and we
can POST a link to cause a cached GET.
</p><p>
I believe this is a more-constrained REST style, not disjoint to
REST. It is at least an ROA! It may fall foul of REST&#39;s
client-server constraint, since we&#39;re now in server-server territory
with integration applications.  Also, the concept of &#39;Hypertext as
the Engine of Application State&#39; is something that may take some
refitting to the mutual state dependency model. However, I believe
it&#39;s most important to focus on maintaining the benefits of REST
and its key elements of standard content types at URIs.
</p><p>
I call this symmetric REST integration style the &#39;Distributed
Observer Pattern&#39;.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Quickly summarise the &#39;Distributed Observer Pattern&#39;.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> OK, the Distributed Observer Pattern is &#39;symmetric REST&#39;. A
resource subscribes to a peer resource via a GET that supplies its
own URI, and is notified of subsequent state changes in that
resource through a POST back.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> That was <i>too</i> quick. Tell me the details!
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> OK, here are four. First, a POST can be either the whole
new state or the fact of the change, allowing the subscriber to
GET the resource when it&#39;s ready (and thereby fill any caches).
</p><p>
Secondly, you can use either the Referer header or perhaps the
Content-Location header in POST and GET requests to indicate the
origin POSTer or GETter URI. Alternatively, you can send this origin
resource URI using the Cookie header, echoing its use in the normal
browser client-server case to identify the pseudo-resource of a
browser user.
</p><p>
POSTed state notifications may be unsolicited by a prior GET
subscription, when the POST target is clearly open to them (as in
the ping notification examples).  These can be seen as &#39;subscribe to
anyone&#39;, and may be combined with a corresponding &#39;GET anyone&#39;
crawling process, without explicit subscription.
</p><p>
Finally, POST notifications may be targetted to single resources to
ask them to update: the Distributed Observer Pattern way of
achieving the client-server editing function.  These now become
&#39;edit suggestions&#39; of the POSTer resource - putting the target back
in control of its own destiny and integrity.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> And why should I use the Distributed Observer Pattern?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> The Distributed Observer Pattern supports the programming model
of inter-dependent resources whose own state is a function of their
peers&#39; state, driven by declarative rules. It&#39;s a very general ROA
programming model.
</p><p>
<i>(c) 2006-2007 Duncan Cragg</i>
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
In Part 6: <a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/content-types-and-uris-rest-dialogues/">Content-Types and URIs</a>.
</p><p>
<i>Note that the opinions of our imaginary eBay Architect don&#39;t
necessarily represent or reflect in any way the official
opinions of eBay or the opinions of anyone at eBay.</i>
</p><p>
<i>Indeed, I can&#39;t guarantee that the opinions of our real blogger
necessarily represent or reflect in any way the official
opinions of Roy Fielding...</i>
</p><p>

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        <title>Inter-Enterprise REST Integration | The REST Dialogues</title>
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<p>

In an exclusive nine-part dialogue with <i>an imaginary eBay
Architect</i>, we present an accessible discussion of the 
REST vs. SOA issue.
</p><p>
Although eBay have what they call a &#39;REST&#39; interface, it is, in
fact, a 
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/strest-service-trampled-rest-will-break-web-20/">STREST</a>
interface, and only works for a few of the many function calls
that they make available via SOAP (GetSearchResults, GetItem,
GetCategoryListings, etc).
</p><p>
In this <a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/getting-data-rest-dialogues/">dialogue series</a>,
I argue the case for eBay to adopt a truly REST approach to
their integration API. 
</p><p>
<b>Part 4: Inter-Enterprise REST Integration</b>
 &#160; ...
</p>

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<p>
</p><div class="summary"><p>
In an exclusive nine-part dialogue with <i>an imaginary eBay
Architect</i>, we present an accessible discussion of the 
REST vs. SOA issue.
</p><p>
Although eBay have what they call a &#39;REST&#39; interface, it is, in
fact, a 
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/strest-service-trampled-rest-will-break-web-20/">STREST</a>
interface, and only works for a few of the many function calls
that they make available via SOAP (GetSearchResults, GetItem,
GetCategoryListings, etc).
</p><p>
In this <a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/getting-data-rest-dialogues/">dialogue series</a>,
I argue the case for eBay to adopt a truly REST approach to
their integration API. 
</p><p>
<b>Part 4: Inter-Enterprise REST Integration</b>
</p></div><p>
</p><p>
<b>Duncan Cragg:</b> OK - I&#39;ve demonstrated how you can replace
imperative, function-call API-driving with a clean, declarative,
RESTful interaction, driven by simple business rules. 
</p><p>
We had servers run by eBay and clients run by the public, in the
same way your SOAP API is used.
</p><p>
<b>eBay Architect:</b> Ah: that&#39;s something SOA has that REST doesn&#39;t!
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> What? What&#39;s that?
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Services are all about Enterprise Integration: about
servers talking to servers. In REST you&#39;re all about clients
talking to servers. The Web is essentially only browser clients
talking to Web servers. With Web Services, you can do more serious
Enterprise Integration.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> You never give up do you? So you want &#39;serious&#39; integration.
Is that within or between enterprises?
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Let&#39;s say between.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Fine. We&#39;ll use the same example as before: it&#39;s just a
variation on the Patterns used.  
</p><p>
We can standardise a more general version of the eBay schemas for
Items, Offers, ResponseToBestOffers and so on. Anyone can put their
own Items, Offers, etc. up on their own servers, or on some public
auction service site.  Everyone can do auctions with eBay and with
anyone else who decides to set up. 
</p><p>
Even, say, a new Google auction site: let&#39;s call it &#39;gBay&#39;!
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Ha! OK, let&#39;s go through this slowly: you have eBay and
&#39;gBay&#39; sites, with sets of users on each. Now Ernie wants to sell
his old laptop on eBay, so creates a new Item for it.  Gordon is
registered to gBay and needs a cheap laptop.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Great - well the first thing is search. As an interoperable
site, gBay offers a broad search across both gBay sale Items and
eBay ones - cached and indexed internally. The gBay search database
would be filled by crawling eBay URIs and even by running queries on
eBay.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Mm. Have to check the T&#39;s &amp; C&#39;s...
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> So Gordon on gBay finds Ernie&#39;s laptop on eBay. The
presentation of this eBay sale item will be given the gBay
style, but calling out directly to the eBay data and images.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> OK, now let&#39;s say Gordon decides to make an offer.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> So an Offer resource is created on <i>gBay</i> referring to the
laptop on eBay. Then through a notification, the Item on eBay is
alerted to this Offer.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> What&#39;s notified, to where?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> There&#39;s a number of possible patterns.  Before, we had the
pattern of POSTing a resource to a server that then creates the
GETable version.
</p><p>
However, now gBay is hosting the Offer, so the internal mechanisms
for notification are no longer available. 
</p><p>
So gBay could suggest an update through APP or a simpler POST to a
collection of Offer entries within the eBay Item to point to this,
now remote, Offer.
</p><p>
Perhaps the gBay Offer can simply be POSTed wholesale to the eBay
Item. 
</p><p>
Or just a link to it.
</p><p>
Or eBay may poll, read a feed or search gBay for new Offer URIs,
putting them into Offer lists as they come up. 
</p><p>
An unusual approach (thanks to 
<a href="http://wellformedweb.org/story/1">Joe Gregorio</a>)
would be for gBay to GET the eBay Item, with the Offer marked in a
Referer: header.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Plenty of patterns to choose from. So there are some Offers
on eBay, some on gBay. The Item lists its Offers in a rank as before,
as they appear through this notification.
</p><p>
Now, let&#39;s say Ernie wants to accept Gordon&#39;s Offer on gBay. 
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> OK, assuming he can see the Offers the same regardless of
host, he just chooses Gordon&#39;s Offer on the offer listing for his
Item and accepts it.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> So we need to create a ResponseToBestOffer on eBay.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Yes. Now the patterns are reversed, because eBay needs to
notify gBay this time - of its ResponseToBestOffer. 
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
</p><p>
<b>Pub-Sub and Observer Pattern</b>
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Again, it can do this by POSTing the ResponseToBestOffer to
each Offer on gBay in turn, or can POST the actual Item itself to
each Offer, where the Item has a link to the ResponseToBestOffer.
</p><p>
That would implement a logical subscription to the Item from each of
the Offers on it.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> It sounds to me like POSTing several times to implement this
pub-sub pattern is physically inefficient, even if it&#39;s logically
correct.  Especially when it&#39;s the same information repeated from
eBay to gBay servers.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Yes, indeed: a single notification to gBay would be better,
letting gBay handle the propagation of subscription responses. This
would in effect treat gBay as a proxy cache, and the notification as
a cache invalidation event on gBay&#39;s copy of the eBay Item.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> What URI on gBay would you POST this eBay Item to?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Something like <code> http://gbay.com/ebay.com/item/4243</code> - to a
copy of itself. You could also GET this cached copy if you wanted.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> OK, what next?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> In gBay the losing Offers get updated on receipt of this
ResponseToBestOffer state. Gordon&#39;s Offer gets set to &#39;won&#39;. In
eBay, all the losing Offers are updated to &#39;lost&#39;. The laptop Item
gets marked &#39;sold&#39;, with a link to the ResponseToBestOffer, which
links to the Offer that won.
</p><p>
It is possible to implement this internally in eBay (and that
pub-sub cache invalidation propagation in gBay) using the
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_pattern">Observer Pattern</a>.
and an event-driven server. 
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Makes sense - you mean something like 
<a href="http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/~mdw/proj/seda/">SEDA</a>?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Yep.
</p><p>
So the Offers all subscribe to the Item to watch for its status
switching to &#39;sold&#39; and to see if they won.  Conversely, the Item
can subscribe to the Offers: maybe the Offers could change or be
withdrawn, and the Item needs to keep itself updated accordingly.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Wow - symmetric subscription - the two-way Observer Pattern!
</p><p>
OK, what next?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> The eBay laptop Item resource will be further updated by its
owner with paid, shipped, refunded, etc., as it currently is within
eBay.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Hold on, you&#39;re mixing patterns: you had the Observer
Pattern on the Item just now: the Item observes the Offers. 
The Offers&#39; state can be POSTed to the Item, whose own state may
then change according to its rules.
</p><p>
But you then mix patterns by allowing a POST directly to the Item
from the Item&#39;s owner, to update a couple of fields.
</p><p>
In one, the Item chooses what its state will be according to the
state of its peers, and in the other, it&#39;s told, not according to
a peer state, but some POST content type. 
</p><p>
That doesn&#39;t seem neat or symmetric.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> It&#39;s true that these interaction styles differ: the Observer
Pattern or pub-sub approach is peer-to-peer (resource-to-resource as
equals watching each other); and in this scenario it&#39;s also
server-to-server. 
</p><p>
The direct edit request is more a client-server pattern, where the
server resource - the Item - is considered under the control of a
client.
</p><p>
However, the Item is always in control of its own state, and can
even ignore a request by its owner if that request doesn&#39;t match its
internal integrity rules. 
</p><p>
The Item supporting both styles at the same time is absolutely fine.
</p><p>
Actually, you could see these two styles as aspects of the same
peer-to-peer pattern: introduce a resource in the client that
holds edit requests, to which the Item subscribes. It all ends up
being much the same.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
</p><p>
<b>Transactions, Trust</b>
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Right, now what if you have a race, where the
ResponseToBestOffer is created at the same time as an Offer is
changed or withdrawn?
</p><p>
Don&#39;t you need some kind of two-phase commit or distributed
transaction logic?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Of course not. It&#39;s the same as in the real world: as long
as it all settles in the end and the rules are followed. The
ResponseToBestOffer cites what state of the Offer it is accepting.
If that changes for any reason, the ResponseToBestOffer is void.
</p><p>
It&#39;s about state and state consistency in REST, as opposed to the
SOA style of maintaining total control at all times.
</p><p>
There will be temporary states that trigger the rules and that need
to be resolved. That&#39;s the programming and distribution model.
Tolerance of transient states is what makes this model so robust.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Surely there are some legal and contract issues?  How is
this exchange legally binding?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> You can digitally sign the Item, Offer and ResponseToBestOffer
resources, and each side needs to keep records of the history.  Then
it&#39;s down to agreements between eBay and gBay and the local laws in
force.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> What about buyer and seller ratings and feedback?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Ernie in eBay and Gordon in gBay can happily publish
feedback about each other, and Ernie will be able to see Gordon&#39;s
rating via eBay&#39;s interface, or directly on gBay.  
</p><p>
As for aggregated ratings from several buyer/seller interactions: a
person&#39;s rating is a function of the ratings of all those they have
dealt with. These ratings can be fetched by GET from remote sites,
and combined with internally-held ratings, depending on the trust of
one site over another site&#39;s ratings.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> So how do we trust these ratings across sites?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> We have to trust eBay that it trusts gBay. This is one
of the basics of distributed systems. In a monolithic system
you have a single trust domain: all parts can trust each other.
</p><p>
Split the application up across multiple trust domains and you need
authentication and crypto.  You can&#39;t get way from needing peer trust
structures built up explicitly through crypto, agreement and
contract and/or implicitly through past successful experience.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Can you be more specific?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Normally, a GET for a resource or a POST of some data comes
with a header identifying the GETer or POSTer. The resource can also
be signed by a user on a site or by the site itself as a proxy. 
</p><p>
Or, if you have an agreement with the site, you just need to use
https to ensure you&#39;ve got a secure connection with that site, 
then needn&#39;t have individual signatures.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Where&#39;s the Single Sign On and Identity in all this?
We&#39;ve got users working across multiple sites.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Well, gBay is the holder of the Gordon identity or persona -
and it manages his world view. Gordon on gBay needs his identity to
mean something on eBay, but we don&#39;t want him to have to create an
account on eBay or to have to tell gBay his eBay login details to
work on both sites. So he expects gBay and eBay to have come to
some agreements about technology and policy.
</p><p>
In REST, we don&#39;t have sessions and logins - we have identity,
which implies asymmetric (private/public key) crypto for signatures
and security. We have a number of tools available to us, including
OpenID and https, as well as resource signing.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Here&#39;s a question for you: how would you manage a single
shopping trolley for Gordon on gBay, containing and allowing payment
for eBay goods?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> ShoppingTrolley resource, links to eBay and gBay items.  At
checkout, smaller eBay-Items-only ShoppingTrolley resource POSTed to
eBay along with CreditCard resource (again, you can sign the
ShoppingTrolley and encrypt the data).
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> So, as eBay, why should we integrate the seller ratings of
someone on gBay? Or get gBay&#39;s for-sale items coming up in our
searches? Or accept Offers and ShoppingTrolleys from gBay? We don&#39;t
control or trust them, and don&#39;t want to send traffic or business
over to them.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Fair enough, for now. I&#39;m only describing what&#39;s technically
possible. Like I said before, you may revisit your stance on
interoperability and mutual agreements one day soon. 
</p><p>
Also, what if your business decides this year to set up a commercial
partnership with another similar business and the managers come to
you asking how it&#39;s all going to work together internally?
</p><p>
You&#39;ll find having good REST interoperability already in place a
huge asset for internal integration! You&#39;ll also find that an
interop-friendly approach makes developing internal &#39;mashups&#39; much
easier.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
</p><p>
<b>Better Than SOA</b>
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> I still can&#39;t see why all this is better than our SOAP
approach, though: it just seems like the same things are
happening at the end of the day - that it&#39;s only a change of 
perspective.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Well, a minute ago, you were challenging using REST for
anything other than simple data manipulation. Now I&#39;ve shown 
you the power of a REST approach can be easily extended to a
clean, simple, scalable, interoperable, general, declarative
programming model. And you&#39;re still not satisfied!
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Ha! OK. So tell me why this programming model is so
scalable and interoperable compared with the SOAP API and 
normal function calls.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> It&#39;s scalable because of all the reasons I mentioned
before: the cacheability of the basic data operations and their
parallelisability through URI partitioning.  <i>updated - I meant 
data partitions not operation partitions!</i>
</p><p>
Plus now we have parallelisability of the application of the
business rules. There&#39;s nothing more parallelisable than a
declarative system.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> If you say so! OK, perhaps you could elaborate on that;
it sounds like a new point.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> It is: when you&#39;re leading the computer step-by-step
through a process, you have to handle concurrency yourself.
That&#39;s the &#39;How&#39; of &#39;What not How&#39;. 
</p><p>
Conversely, when you simply declare &#39;What&#39; the rules are, the
computer is free to go off and do things as concurrently as the
rules and the data separation allow.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Mm. OK. Interoperability?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> It&#39;s interoperable again for the reasons I mentioned
before. Firstly, the power of the URI; this scenario is a full
player in the Web: you can share links to Items around and go
fetch your Offers and Feedbacks with a simple HTTP GET. You can
make things happen by POSTing to the relevant URI, given its
content type.
</p><p>
There&#39;s also the expectation of standard Content-Types,
sub-types and schemas in GET and POST, rather than custom
eBay WSDLs and schemas, that I mentioned before. 
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Like you said, you already mentioned these things.
Anything to add now that we&#39;re doing business rules?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Yes; when data is your interface and resource
transformation your basic programming model, resource data
types become part of your &#39;programming language&#39;.  As such,
there is great benefit in sharing data types to <i>allow such
programming across multiple domain boundaries</i>. 
</p><p>
SOA, on the other hand, encourages inventing your own
&#39;programming language&#39; every time. It&#39;s a much more brittle
model and mind-set.
</p><p>
You can&#39;t GET your RespondToBestOffer function call, but I
can GET the ResponseToBestOffer!  It&#39;s basically a more
mashable approach to distributed programming.
</p><p>
<i>(c) 2006-2007 Duncan Cragg</i>
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
In Part 5: <a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/distributed-observer-pattern-rest-dialogues/">The Distributed Observer Pattern</a>.
</p><p>
<i>Note that the opinions of our imaginary eBay Architect don&#39;t
necessarily represent or reflect in any way the official
opinions of eBay or the opinions of anyone at eBay.</i>
</p><p>
<i>Indeed, I can&#39;t guarantee that the opinions of our real blogger
necessarily represent or reflect in any way the official
opinions of Roy Fielding...</i>
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        <title>Business Functions | The REST Dialogues</title>
        <published>2007-01-10T14:21:00Z</published>
        
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In an exclusive nine-part dialogue with <i>an imaginary eBay
Architect</i>, we present an accessible discussion of the 
REST vs. SOA issue.
</p><p>
Although eBay have what they call a &#39;REST&#39; interface, it is, in
fact, a 
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/strest-service-trampled-rest-will-break-web-20/">STREST</a>
interface, and only works for a few of the many function calls
that they make available via SOAP (GetSearchResults, GetItem,
GetCategoryListings, etc).
</p><p>
In this <a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/getting-data-rest-dialogues/">dialogue series</a>,
I argue the case for eBay to adopt a truly REST approach to
their integration API. 
</p><p>
<b>Part 3: Business Functions</b>
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</p><div class="summary"><p>
In an exclusive nine-part dialogue with <i>an imaginary eBay
Architect</i>, we present an accessible discussion of the 
REST vs. SOA issue.
</p><p>
Although eBay have what they call a &#39;REST&#39; interface, it is, in
fact, a 
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/strest-service-trampled-rest-will-break-web-20/">STREST</a>
interface, and only works for a few of the many function calls
that they make available via SOAP (GetSearchResults, GetItem,
GetCategoryListings, etc).
</p><p>
In this <a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/getting-data-rest-dialogues/">dialogue series</a>,
I argue the case for eBay to adopt a truly REST approach to
their integration API. 
</p><p>
<b>Part 3: Business Functions</b>
</p></div><p>
</p><p>
<b>Duncan Cragg:</b> So, where did we get to?  Oh yes: the REST
recipe for scalable and interoperable distributed systems!
</p><p>
We can read data at a URI with GET. We will usually understand
that data when we get it, because it has a standard content type
at a number of layers - perhaps from character set up to
Microformat via XML and XHTML.
</p><p>
We can cache the data if the response allows it.
</p><p>
Then we can POST back our own content to the same URI - if we
believe that this resource is interested and that it will do
something we want.
</p><p>
Finally, the content we GET has more URIs that we can use in
the same way.
</p><p>
<b>eBay Architect:</b> Simple enough.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> In fact, these are essentially the 
<a href="http://roy.gbiv.com/pubs/dissertation/rest_arch_style.htm">constraints of REST</a>
as formulated by Roy Fielding.  Note that Fielding hardly
mentions actual verbs in his thesis: he, in fact, gives special
mention to GET and PUT, which is consistent with the basic
&#39;state transfer&#39; concept - one verb for each direction. The 
Web (and I) prefer POST to PUT!
</p><p>
Although we expect the resource to change in some way - perhaps
change, create more resources or delete resources, the resource
can actually do what it likes when POSTed to, as long as it
conforms to its declared standard.
</p><p>
Don&#39;t forget that REST doesn&#39;t <i>require</i> direct resource
editing as either a necessary or sufficient mode of
interaction, and that in general a resource can do what it
likes on receipt of incoming content, as long as both sides
have agreed in advance.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> How do you know what a resource will do, then?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> The standard to which the POST target conforms will
declare the type of the POSTed content and set the POSTer&#39;s
expectations of the consequence of such a POST.
</p><p>
HTML, of course, is a bit vague and low-level about what you
can POST - it&#39;s either name/value pairs or files, with no
promise about what will happen afterwards. This is because a
human is directly involved in the interaction. In contrast,
we&#39;re discussing the general REST integration case here, where
higher-level, more complex, machine-generated POST types are
expected.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> This all sounds fine to me. But, like I said, our API
has more complex business functions in it that go beyond simple
data read and write.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> What sort of functions were you referring to?
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> There&#39;s many of them. Functions like PlaceOffer,
RespondToBestOffer, CompleteSale, SendInvoice.
</p><p>
These are real functions, not getting, setting or adding
data.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Indeed, and as such form an excellent exercise to
demonstrate the general power of REST!
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Show me how. What&#39;s the trick?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> The trick is simply to identify your resources, then
to discover or define how their state depends on related
resources and POSTed content, using transformation rules, or
&#39;animation&#39; code.
</p><p>
Indeed, if the state of a resource depends on the state
of other resources - or POSTed data - via a transformation,
then you have a complete, general programming model.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> You mean my &#39;real functions&#39;?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Yes - a resource can do any &#39;real functions&#39; just by
watching resource changes via GET or receiving resource data
via POST on its URI and then mechanically transforming itself
according to its internal rules - as defined by standard,
convention or agreement.
</p><p>
Data operations are enough to enable much more than just data
operations, as long as you have the internal transformation
rules in place that animate the data in the face of current state.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> What does this mean to an eBay Architect? How does that
help with placing offers and responding to offers?  How do I
send an invoice?
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
</p><p>
<b>A REST eBay Transaction</b>
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> OK, first identify your resources: let&#39;s look at what
resources are implied by your list. You mentioned PlaceOffer,
RespondToBestOffer, CompleteSale, SendInvoice. 
</p><p>
So, it looks like we have this list of resource types: User,
Item, Offer, ResponseToBestOffer, Feedback, Invoice.
</p><p>
Notice how, when we go from function (RespondToBestOffer!) to
resource (ResponseToBestOffer), we change the names from an
imperative instruction style to a declarative state style. This
is a crucial change in mind-set.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Um - the CompleteSale function isn&#39;t just for adding
feedback, it allows paid and shipped to be set on an Item.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Exactly: paid and shipped status are attributes of
the actual Item being sold; the Item would be updated directly
to complete a sale.  However, it makes sense to put Feedback in
its own separate resource.
</p><p>
Admittedly, this is just my initial analysis. I&#39;m sure it could
get more complex on closer inspection; I&#39;m just trying to be
illustrative. And I don&#39;t necessarily understand the whole eBay
auction process, so please forgive any slip-ups there!
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> OK. Now you said that we should define how these
resources depend on each other and on POSTed content, using
transformation rules.  Take me through that.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Sure. There are two API Users: Sam the Seller and Bill
the Buyer.
</p><p>
Sam POSTs his Item resource, and eBay&#39;s servers create a
linkable copy server-side, returning the URI in the &#39;Location:&#39;
header of the POST response.
</p><p>
Note that a server doesn&#39;t always need to create a linkable
copy of what&#39;s POSTed to it, but that&#39;s the pattern I&#39;ll use in
these examples.
</p><p>
Let&#39;s say Sam the Seller is posting a Fixed Price Item with
Best Offers switched on - since you&#39;ve mentioned
RespondToBestOffer. Here, people can suggest a near, lower
offer and a bit of negotiating can take place. Not the usual
eBay auction but a simpler interaction that is perhaps more
generally-applicable in e-commerce.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Let Bill do a PlaceOffer, then: any transformations now?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Yes. A number of people, including Bill, POST Offers
linking to the Item and see these Offers created on the server.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> So how does Sam get to know about the Offers on his
Item?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Ah - that&#39;s your first transformation! Each time an
Offer is POSTed referring to an Item, the target Item itself is
updated. In particular, the Item has a sub-container with a
list of current Offers on it, ordered by value.
</p><p>
At any time, anyone can fetch their own resources, and some
owned by others, with a GET. Sam can GET his Item and its
list of current Offers; Bill can also see the Item, and GET his
Offer.  Items and Offers thus refer to one another by internal
links that everyone can understand because they understand URIs.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Is this transformation really that big a deal?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Not hugely. This transformation rule encapsulates the
commonly-occurring concept in commerce of a range of values of
multiple bids on some sale item - such as found in real estate
and in financial markets.
</p><p>
A further business transformation rule may perhaps have Offers
running a &#39;best-offer&#39; status flag that is kept consistent with
that Offer&#39;s relative state.
</p><p>
As you can see, and as is often the case in REST and declarative
programming generally, these business rules are very simple.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> So, Sam sees a number of Offers. Let&#39;s say Bill has the
highest and Sam wants to take it.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Sam then POSTs a ResponseToBestOffer, accepting, and
linking to, Bill&#39;s Offer. Again, Sam gets the server-side URI
of his ResponseToBestOffer for future reference. 
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> This is where I&#39;d call the RespondToBestOffer function.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Yep. Now, you have this state: an Item from Sam and a
list of Offers on that Item, with a Best Offer from Bill. Onto
that overall state arrives Sam&#39;s ResponseToBestOffer referring
to and accepting Bill&#39;s Offer.
</p><p>
This new state is &#39;in tension&#39;: it&#39;s not yet mutually
self-consistent with the business rules - which say that we have
a sale.
</p><p>
To resolve the tension, something&#39;s got to change.  So all the
losing Offers get updated to &#39;lost&#39;, and Bill&#39;s to &#39;won&#39;. The
Item gets updated to &#39;sold&#39;, with a link to Bill&#39;s Offer.
</p><p>
Now we&#39;re back in harmony again after some simple
transformations on our resources.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Mm. That&#39;s an interesting perspective.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Yes, instead of calling functions, we&#39;re asserting
state and then applying rules to bring the state into a
configuration consistent with those rules.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> OK. So let&#39;s go back to my SOAP function list:
CompleteSale. You said paid and shipped from CompleteSale are
on the Item - but they still need to be actioned. And we still
need to add Feedback.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Clearly, you can set the paid and shipped status of an
Item using POST to the Item&#39;s URI, just like in the simpler
data setting examples before.
</p><p>
Always remember, though, that an Item is responsible for its
own integrity - it may change spontaneously according to its
internal transformation rules, or may change directly via User
POSTs - but only if it will be consistent with its internal
integrity rules.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> Feedback?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Adding Feedback happens by the seller POSTing a Feedback
resource to the URI of the buyer User&#39;s Feedback collection,
which then returns a URI for the server-created copy.
</p><p>
A number of Feedback resources can be aggregated into a rating
on a User resource; another simple transformation, where the
rating is dependent on the state of the collection of Feedback
resources.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> That&#39;s a point - what URI did you POST your Items and
Offers to before, to get them created on the server?
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> A seller User can keep a collection of current Items to
POST to; a buyer User can keep a collection of current Offers.
</p><p>
It&#39;s just like in the Atom Publishing Protocol: new Items are
POSTed to the seller&#39;s Item collection, new Offers either to a
buyer&#39;s Offer collection or directly to the relevant Item -
either way should cause the Offer to be added to the other
Offer list.
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> OK. SendInvoice? This has the side-effect of sending an
email - now <i>there&#39;s</i> an imperative!
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> Not when you think declarative!
</p><p>
To send an Invoice, just POST it to the buyer User&#39;s Invoice
collection to get it created on the server with its URI.
</p><p>
Creation of the Invoice resource then triggers notification to
the recipient by email. This email can either include an entire
copy of the Invoice, or have a nice RESTful link back to the
actual Invoice resource. 
</p><p>
Email notification in a REST perspective falls into the same
category as Web Feeds and POST - it&#39;s a proactive way to get
resource state or state change out to an interested party.
</p><p>
Note that, like all interactions in this approach, it&#39;s not
event-driven - it&#39;s state-driven. If you keep re-POSTing the
same Invoice, or Item or Offer, it only gets created once, and
the email only needs to be sent once!
</p><p>
<b>eA:</b> All these resources floating around - how do you manage
them? You mentioned the Item and Offer collections.
</p><p>
<b>DC:</b> A seller&#39;s User resource would collect resources
together like Items and ResponseToBestOffers. A buyer&#39;s User
resource would have links to their collections of Offers,
Invoices and Feedbacks.  Buyers can also be sellers, of course.
</p><p>
These collections all form good candidates for viewing through
a feed reader, or feed reading widget. For example, you could
subscribe to your Item&#39;s collection of Offers to see new offers
come in. You might subscribe to the Item collection of a seller
whose goods often interest you. You would almost certainly have
a subscription to the collection of Feedbacks about you...
</p><p>
This kind of thing falls naturally out of the REST approach, as
long as collections have their own URI. Note that, unlike Web
Feeds, such collections should contain <i>links</i> to their
contents, perhaps alongside some summary information, not
entire copies of their contents&#39; text!
</p><p>
<i>(c) 2006-2007 Duncan Cragg</i>
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
In Part 4: <a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/inter-enterprise-rest-integration-rest-dialogues/">Inter-Enterprise REST Integration</a>.
</p><p>
<i>Note that the opinions of our imaginary eBay Architect don&#39;t
necessarily represent or reflect in any way the official
opinions of eBay or the opinions of anyone at eBay.</i>
</p><p>
<i>Indeed, I can&#39;t guarantee that the opinions of our real blogger
necessarily represent or reflect in any way the official
opinions of Roy Fielding...</i>
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There were two things I knew about eBay&#39;s Architecture - that
they use J2EE and that they seem to like SOA.  Both are
approaches I give, ahem, special mention to on all my pages at
the bottom of the left-hand column.
</p><p>
So it was with some apprehension that I opened up 
<a href="http://www.addsimplicity.com/downloads/eBaySDForum2006-11-29.pdf">this</a> 
(PDF) slide pack from 
<a href="http://www.addsimplicity.com/">Dan Pritchett</a> 
and Randy Shoup of eBay, presented at 
<a href="http://www.sdforum.org/p/calEvent.asp?CID=2013&amp;mo=11&amp;yr=2006">SD Forum 2006 recently</a>. 
I was expecting my prejudices around the issues and techniques of scaling web sites 
to be challenged, at least.
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</p><div class="summary"><p>
There were two things I knew about eBay&#39;s Architecture - that
they use J2EE and that they seem to like SOA.  Both are
approaches I give, ahem, special mention to on all my pages at
the bottom of the left-hand column.
</p><p>
So it was with some apprehension that I opened up 
<a href="http://www.addsimplicity.com/downloads/eBaySDForum2006-11-29.pdf">this</a> 
(PDF) slide pack from 
<a href="http://www.addsimplicity.com/">Dan Pritchett</a> 
and Randy Shoup of eBay, presented at 
<a href="http://www.sdforum.org/p/calEvent.asp?CID=2013&amp;mo=11&amp;yr=2006">SD Forum 2006 recently</a>. 
I was expecting my prejudices around the issues and techniques of scaling web sites 
to be challenged, at least.
</p></div><p>
Instead, I found one after another of my scaling beliefs met. There was, indeed, a mention of J2EE - specifically the one where they said they threw most of it out!  And a mention of SOA - the tiny line between two boxes on one slide connecting the &#39;Transaction Platform&#39; to the &#39;Fraud&#39; system! 
</p><p>
The rest of the slides talked about sensible engineering practices such as cacheing, 
partitioning, statelessness, event-driven architectures and horizontal scaling.  I was 
surprised to see XSL mentioned at the front end but, hey, it&#39;s a Declarative technology - 
so I&#39;m not complaining!
</p><p>
It&#39;s a must-read document for anyone considering scaling a website. As it happens, I&#39;m currently 
considering scaling a Web 2.0 site for a client at ThoughtWorks, so it&#39;s really put me in the right
frame of mind. There&#39;s a summary of the talk by
<a href="http://netmesh.info/jernst/Comments/sdforum-ebay-architecture.html">Johannes Ernst</a>
if, like me, you resist clicking PDF links.
</p><p>
Dan, of course, is the eBay Architect who has 
<a href="http://www.addsimplicity.com/adding_simplicity_an_engi/2006/11/the_rest_dialog.html">responded</a>
to the first two episodes of my 
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/getting-data-rest-dialogues/">REST Dialogues</a>. 
I recommend his 
<a href="http://www.addsimplicity.com/">blog</a>  - even to the SOA-averse!
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        <title>The Right Way to do Ajax is Declaratively</title>
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Don&#39;t write your interactive Web application in custom
Javascript! The Web&#39;s Declarative nature needn&#39;t be
broken just because you want two-way dynamic data instead of
one-way documents on your site.
</p><p>
Instead, write Declaratively to generic Javascripts, plugins
and browser features such as 
<a href="http://domscripting.com/presentations/xtech2006/">Hijax</a>,
<a href="http://www.mnot.net/javascript/hinclude.html">hInclude</a>,
<a href="http://www.formfaces.com/">XForms</a>,
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Don&#39;t write your interactive Web application in custom
Javascript! The Web&#39;s Declarative nature needn&#39;t be
broken just because you want two-way dynamic data instead of
one-way documents on your site.
</p><p>
Instead, write Declaratively to generic Javascripts, plugins
and browser features such as 
<a href="http://domscripting.com/presentations/xtech2006/">Hijax</a>,
<a href="http://www.mnot.net/javascript/hinclude.html">hInclude</a>,
<a href="http://www.formfaces.com/">XForms</a>,
SVG, XBL, etc.
</p></div><p>
This is the last of my 
<a href="http://xtech06.usefulinc.com/">XTech 2006</a>-inspired articles.
(I know: XTech was some weeks ago now, but I&#39;m sure you&#39;ll have
noticed that this is a &#39;contemporary article&#39; blog, not a news
blog!)
</p><p>
The theme for XTech 2006 was &#39;Building Web 2.0&#39;, and as a Web 2.0
Conference  
(<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=153074441&amp;size=l">don&#39;t</a> tell 
<a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2006/05/controversy_about_our_web_20_s.html">O&#39;Reilly</a>),
there was tons of Ajax... And as this is essentially an XML
Conference, there was also a strong Declarative theme. 
</p><p>
And the right way to do Ajax <i>is</i> Declaratively!
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b><a href="http://xtech06.usefulinc.com/schedule/detail/206">Ajax Lightning Demos</a></b>
</p><p>
Simon Willison presided over this session.  The demo that
impressed me most was 
<a href="http://domscripting.com/presentations/xtech2006/">Hijax: Progressive Enhancement with Ajax</a>,
whose paper is 
<a href="http://xtech06.usefulinc.com/schedule/paper/29">here</a>.
</p><p>
Hijax takes the view that you should design for no Ajax, then
hijack the links, form posts and page construction in Ajax to
speed it up, rather than designing for Ajax in the first place
and excluding users without a capable browser. This is related 
to the <a href="http://microformats.org/wiki/rest/ahah">AHAH</a> idea.
</p><p>
So you don&#39;t build your application in Javascript, but simply
enhance the existing Web model, running all the page&#39;s behaviour
back on the server which owns it. Much more Declarative!
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b><a href="http://xtech06.usefulinc.com/schedule/detail/203">Web 2.0 On Speed</a></b>
</p><p>
<a href="http://www.mnot.net/blog/">Mark Nottingham</a> is one of those
people whose blogs are top of my feed list. He currently works
for Yahoo! This talk was about using some basic techniques to
ensure Web 2.0 doesn&#39;t grind to a halt with all those dynamic
and personalised pages. Simple fixes can get you very far:
faster servers like <a href="http://www.lighttpd.net/">lighttpd</a>,
various cacheing tricks, etc.  Yahoo! should be implementing
his ideas and insights on their sites (hopefully Mark will then
go on to tell their API designers how to do REST...)
</p><p>
The main idea that interested me was using Ajax for
client-side page construction (think client-side 
<a href="http://www.opensymphony.com/sitemesh/">SiteMesh</a>)
and for inserting personalised URLs into the page.
</p><p>
It&#39;s a bit like Hijax, that I mentioned above. Mark
<a href="http://www.mnot.net/blog/2006/05/16/web_2_caching">says</a>:
</p><blockquote class="others-content"><div><p>What I would like to see is for common JS functions like this
to be sifted out and standardised as declarative markup...</p></div></blockquote><p>
</p><p>
This is good stuff (assuming you agree with us that Declarative
is good!). See more in the 
<a href="http://www.mnot.net/blog/2006/05/16/web_2_caching">summary and slides</a>,
and in Mark&#39;s 
<a href="http://www.mnot.net/javascript/hinclude.html">hInclude proposal</a>.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b><a href="http://xtech06.usefulinc.com/schedule/detail/19">Ditching the database: XML and the PHP webapp</a></b>
</p><p>
David Megginson basically said we should work in XML throughout
our web apps: cache XML as your datastore, keeping all the
little snippets that make up your pages - dynamic and static -
cached in memory, then just send XML snippets from the server
cache to the Ajax client to render, etc. This is rather like Mark
Nottingham&#39;s tip above on client-side page assembly to achieve
greater cacheability.
</p><p>
<a href="http://xtech06.usefulinc.com/schedule/paper/19">Paper here</a>.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b><a href="http://xtech06.usefulinc.com/schedule/detail/189">Introduction to XHTML2 and XForms</a></b>
</p><p>
The flamboyant-looking and entertaining 
<a href="http://homepages.cwi.nl/~steven/">Steven Pemberton</a> of
the W3C presented a fast-paced and in-depth overview of XHTML2
and XForms.
</p><p>
Unless I missed something, it looks to me like XHTML2 has taken
a perfect trajectory between backwards-compatible concepts,
semantics and syntax and abstract idealism.  XHTML2 appears to
cleanly fix all the outstanding problems with HTML once and for
all.
</p><p>
Now, part of XHTML2 is XForms. XForms does the same cleaning up
job on HTML forms that XHTML2 does on HTML. 
</p><p>
The important thing to know is that it works as an XML &#39;schema
constraints engine&#39;. That is, it returns to the server a
fully-semantically-valid chunk of XML on a form submission.
The &#39;schema&#39; can include some static data pulled in from
a separate URL to populate drop-downs, etc.
</p><p>
Yet it is more than this: I asked if it was Turing Complete,
and Steven said yes. You can program an application using it.
</p><p>
And that application will be programmed Declaratively!
</p><p>
I can define the constraint that some output element be
dependent on some input, then if the user changes the input,
the output changes accordingly.
</p><p>
It&#39;s like Declarative Ajax. There were further talks on XForms
which I cover just below.
</p><p>
Of course, I asked if it was RESTful, and it seems it was,
mostly. The issue was that a URL may bring you in an editor
XForms page, which then itself brings in some data underneath.
</p><p>
The editor XForms page is the bookmarkable thing but you don&#39;t
see the URL of the <i>populating data</i>, so that&#39;s not
bookmarkable.  The page may change according to this data, but
bookmarking what you see still only bookmarks the editor, not
the editor plus the current visible data.
</p><p>
Also, even though XForms is amazingly programmable, it is still
a forms system at heart. For example, you have explicit input
and output elements; you can&#39;t get input events off the DOM and
rewrite the DOM as output.
</p><p>
Slides <a href="http://www.w3.org/2006/Talks/05-16-steven-XHTML2-XForms/">here</a>.
</p><p>
Read more about XHTML2 <a href="http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-futhtml2.html">here</a>.
</p><p>
Read more on XForms from Mark Birbeck (a Pemberton collaborator)
<a href="http://internet-apps.blogspot.com/2006/02/flickr-search-hello-world-for-ajax.html">starting here</a>.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
</p><p>
<b><a href="http://xtech06.usefulinc.com/schedule/detail/137">Building Rich, Encapsulated Widgets Using XBL, XForms and SVG</a></b>
</p><p>
Mark Birbeck showed us how to create a Declarative client-side
mash of Flickr. OK, there&#39;s a tiny bit of script in there, but
I&#39;m sure it&#39;s unnecessary, as it only does some simple DOM
manipulation and event handling. Perhaps it can be replaced
somehow, or made part of a generic library.
</p><p>
<a href="http://xtech06.usefulinc.com/schedule/paper/137">Paper here</a>.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
</p><p>
<b><a href="http://xtech06.usefulinc.com/schedule/detail/133">XForms: an alternative to Ajax?</a></b>
</p><p>
Since XForms is so amazingly programmable, you can use it
instead of Ajax.
</p><p>
Instead of coding a special script on top of an Ajax library,
you can bring in a 
<a href="http://www.formfaces.com/">generic (Ajax) script</a>
that gives you XForms today, and write your application
Declaratively on top of that.
</p><p>
Alternatively, you can do some pre-processing on the server,
which is the approach Erik Bruchez explained here.
</p><p>
<a href="http://xtech06.usefulinc.com/schedule/paper/133">Paper here</a>
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
</p><p>
<b><a href="http://xtech06.usefulinc.com/schedule/detail/93">The Power of Declarative Thinking</a></b>
</p><p>
This talk was more from Steven Pemberton giving us a little
history of his work and showing us how XForms can be used
for Declarative programming.
</p><p>
Some good quotes from the <a href="http://www.w3.org/2006/Talks/05-24-steven-declarative/">slides</a>:
</p><p>
</p><blockquote class="others-content"><div><p>.. a program that is 10 times longer is 32 times
harder to write.
</p><p>
Or put another way: a program that is 10 times smaller needs
only 3% of the effort. </p></div></blockquote><p>
And of course, the point is that Declarative programs are
usually 10 times smaller.
</p><blockquote class="others-content"><div><p>.. no one writes applications except programmers.
</p><p>
Interesting exception: spreadsheets
</p><p>
Mostly because they use a declarative programming
model.
</p><p>
The nice part about declarative programming is that the
computer takes care of all the boring fiddly detail.
</p></div></blockquote><p>
Now I&#39;m as aware as anyone of the dangers of giving
non-technical people the power to program. Spreadsheets are,
let&#39;s say, a mixed blessing.  There&#39;s probably a long way
to go before we can give the business the reins over their own
business rules.
</p><p>
But it will happen: it means splitting programmers into
(Declarative) Business Analysts and (Imperative) Those That
Enhance and Maintain The Underlying Processing Fabric. I 
can tell you now which group will get paid more.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b><a href="http://xtech06.usefulinc.com/schedule/detail/79">Standardising Web Applications: Rich Web Clients at W3C</a></b>
</p><p>
Dean Jackson gave a talk about what the W3C are doing to play
catch-up with all the latest goings-on in the Wide World of
Web 2.0.
</p><p>
Here&#39;s a quick list of things they&#39;re standardising:
XMLHttpRequest, Networking, Timers, Client-Side Storage, File
Upload, the Window class, DOM Level 3 Events and XPath,
Drag&#39;n&#39;Drop, Remote Events for XML (REX); XBL2, XUL (possibly
alongside XAML, MXML and LZX); Compound Document Formats.
</p><p>
Again, the magic word Declarative came up in the talk.
</p><p>
The Declarative aspects of Rich Web Clients centre around the
<a href="http://www.w3.org/2006/webapi/">DOM Level 3 work, Drag&#39;n&#39;Drop, Remote Events for XML (REX)</a>,
<a href="http://www.w3.org/2006/appformats/">XBL2 and XUL</a> and
<a href="http://www.w3.org/2004/CDF/">Compound Document Formats</a>.
SVG is a common theme between many of these (once again, Sam
Ruby is 
<a href="http://www.intertwingly.net/blog/2006/06/17/Inline-SVG">on</a> the
<a href="http://www.intertwingly.net/blog/2006/06/23/Sculpting-the-Future">case</a>).
</p><p>
The <a href="http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/">WHATWG</a>
is an independent collaboration of browser builders (Opera,
Mozilla, Apple) that has its own initiatives in this space -
including HTML 5 and Web Forms 2.0, the Canvas object,
server-sent DOM events, network connections, client-side state,
drag&#39;n&#39;drop, etc. They are happy to work with the W3C to ensure
compatibility and W3C standardisation.
<a href="http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-futhtml1/">Here</a>
is an article covering some of these WHATWG ideas.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
<b>Other Declarative Browser-Driving Work</b>
</p><p>
When you look around outside of the Conference, you suddenly
discover numerous further examples of Declarative browser-driving:
</p><p>
<a href="http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2006/02/14/AJAX-Performance">Tim Bray</a>
has been stitching pages together with Ajax.
</p><p>
<a href="http://www.intertwingly.net/blog/2006/06/23/Sculpting-the-Future">Sam Ruby</a>
says Declarative is more mashable.
</p><p>
<a href="http://microformats.org/wiki/rest/ahah">AHAH</a> is &#39;Asychronous
HTML and HTTP&#39;, an apparent attempt to make a big deal out of
rewriting the DOM on receipt of an Ajax HTML response. Same ideas
as above.
</p><p>
<a href="http://blog.ingy.net/2006/02/jemplate_a_template_toolkit_fo.html">Jemplate</a>
looks like a similar kind of thing.
</p><p>
<a href="http://www.nexaweb.com/open/xap/index.aspx?id=382">XAP (Extensible Ajax Platform)</a>
is an interesting project that was given by Nexaweb Technologies
<a href="http://incubator.apache.org/xap/">to Apache</a>. Here&#39;s the elevator pitch:
</p><ul>
<li>Declarative rich user interface via XML;</li>
<li>Data binding for connecting UI to data;</li>
<li>Incremental update of web pages declaratively and programmatically;</li>
</ul><p>
</p><p>
<a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/widgets_are_the.php">Widgets</a>
intersect with this whole dynamic, client-side page-assembly
space. There are now numerous examples of commercial Widget
approaches.  Some Widgets may be driven by a Web Feed, some may
get their data from a Microformat or from a Web API.
</p><p>
<a href="http://my.opera.com/community/dev/widgets/first/">Opera Widgets</a>
are DHTML packages that break free from the browser and run on
the desktop.  The WHATWG 
<a href="http://listserver.dreamhost.com/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2006-June/006553.html">could even end up</a>
taking them as the basis of their play in this game.
</p><p>
Of course, we&#39;ve already seen how to do Widgets right, in Mark
Birbeck&#39;s talk above. In general, Compound Documents and
dynamic, POSTable 
<a href="http://duncan-cragg.org/blog/post/microformats-challenge-web-feeds-and-web-apis/">Microformats</a>
are the (Declarative) future of Widgets...
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
</p><p>
<b>Declarative Meme</b>
</p><p>
We need the &#39;Declarative&#39; meme to consolidate and create a
movement out of all this, otherwise apparently disparate,
work.  Once we have a meme to gather around, we gain
collaborative and cognitive power from its mere existence.
This could work in the same way that the label &#39;Ajax&#39; itself
consolidated (and launched into orbit) techniques that a large
number of us had already been doing for months or years.
</p><p>
The &#39;Declarative&#39; meme also includes and extrapolates the
&#39;REST&#39; meme. REST is Declarative, but not something you may
normally associate with Ajax application programming. Yet
programming a dynamic Web interface Declaratively goes
hand-in-hand with the linkability, cacheability and mashability
of a RESTful back-end interaction, as Mark Nottingham and
others above have shown.
</p><p>&#160;</p><p>
</p><p>
<b>The Right Way to do Web Applications is Declaratively</b>
</p><p>
Specialist client-side Javascripts are a mistake. They break
the generic Web client model: hand-crafted thick clients are
hard to make cross-browser compatible, they add to download
times, they are tied to specific application servers, they
break the browsing experience (bookmarking, linking, history)
and miss the benefits of the Web&#39;s cacheing architecture.
</p><p>
We should be writing Declarative pages to exploit generic
Javascripts and plugins or extensions (such as SVG, XForms
and other Declarative technologies).  These generic facilities
will effectively extend the concept of the browser, from one
that deals primarily with one-way static documents, to one that
deals with two-way dynamic data.
</p><p>
After some time, the browsers themselves will be written to new
standards that make those browser-redefining Javascripts and
plugins irrelevant.
</p><p>
By a &#39;two-way dynamic data&#39; browser, I mean a browser that
constructs pages from several sources - several snippets,
microcontents and widgets.  It will show those pages updating
in real-time as those sources update.
</p><p>
It will be aware of the user&#39;s key and mouse events on the
visible DOM, and relay them back to the affected source, which
may in turn update - for everyone viewing the page.
</p><p>
Programming the behaviour behind the data can be completely
Declarative; rule-driven and event-driven. The programs will
run both on the server, where the Resources are owned, as well
as on the client, as in XForms.
</p><p>
I&#39;ve shown many examples in this article that are heading in
exactly this direction.
</p><p>
New Web (2.0) standards, that respect and extend Web
architecture, can one day replace hand-crafted thick client
scripts and generic scripts and browser extensions, allowing us
to program our dynamic applications Declaratively - directly to
a Web 2.0 browser.
</p><p>
Such a Web 2.0 architecture and platform will still be as
scalable and interoperable as the current Web architecture -
more so, in fact. And it will be much more fun to program for!
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